to sovereignty. my guest is ruben vardanyan, an armenian who made his fortune in russia and who is now de facto prime minister of nagorno karabakh. his enclave is in deep trouble. will russia save it? reuben vatanen in nagorno karabakh, welcome to hardtalk. thank you. now, mrvardanyan, many in our hardtalk audience will not know very much about nagorno karabakh, but suffice to say, you are the state minister in a tiny territory of some 120,000 people. and right now, you have an urgent crisis because your land route out to armenia is currently blockaded. what is the situation for the people living in your territory today? first of all, i want to say thank you for doing this interview. it s very important for the world knowing what s happening in a locked out territory where 120,000 people living in their own homeland for thousands of years and last 35 years was fighting for our own independence. and 38 days in december 12th, the azerbaijan named eco activists block the road an
lloyd morrisett came up with the idea of using tv to teach young children basic skills like counting and recognising letters. now on bbc news, hardtalk. welcome to hardtalk. i m stephen sackur. the war in ukraine has focused attention on vladimir putin s apparent desire to remake a greater russian space, incorporating chunks of the former soviet empire. with that in mind, keep an eye on what s happening in the tiny, disputed territory of nagorno karabakh, where ethnic armenians backed by russia continue to defy azerbaijan s claim to sovereignty. my guest is ruben vardanyan, an armenian who made his fortune in russia and who is now de facto prime minister of nagorno karabakh. his enclave is in deep trouble. will russia save it? reuben vardanyan in nagorno karabakh, welcome to hardtalk. thank you. now, mrvardanyan, many in our hardtalk audience will not know very much about nagorno karabakh, but suffice to say, you are the state minister in a tiny territory of some 120,000 peop
reuben vatanen in nagorno karabakh, welcome to hardtalk. thank you. now, mrvardanyan, many in our hardtalk audience will not know very much about nagorno karabakh, but suffice to say, you are the state minister in a tiny territory of some 120,000 people. and right now, you have an urgent crisis because your land route out to armenia is currently blockaded. what is the situation for the people living in your territory today? first of all, i want to say thank you for doing this interview. it s very important for the world knowing what s happening in a locked out territory where 120,000 people living in their own homeland for thousands of years and last 35 years was fighting for our own independence. and 38 days in december 12th, the azerbaijan named eco activists block the road and with the support of the azerbaijani state now they control the road and we don t get anything except from red cross and russian peacekeepers. and we have a thousand kids. and we have 30,000 kids. it
very good morning. that is me down for the night. sally is here at the top of the hour. now on bbc news hardtalk. welcome to hardtalk. i m stephen sackur. the war in ukraine has focused attention on vladimir putin s apparent desire to remake a greater russian space, incorporating chunks of the former soviet empire. with that in mind, keep an eye on what s happening in the tiny, disputed territory of nagorno karabakh, where ethnic armenians backed by russia continue to defy azerbaijan s claim to sovereignty. my guest is ruben vardanyan, an armenian who made his fortune in russia and who is now de facto prime minister of nagorno karabakh. his enclave is in deep trouble. will russia save it? reuben vardanyan in nagorno karabakh, welcome to hardtalk. thank you. now, mrvardanyan, many in our hardtalk audience will not know very much about nagorno karabakh, but suffice to say, you are the state minister in a tiny territory of some 120,000 people. and right now, you have an urgent
it will be separate rules of law because we are a democratic country. we have a president been elected. we cannot see ourselves be part of azerbaijan, but we respect what we ve been living in the same region and we need to find a way, despite all the difficulty, to find a solution which will be acceptable from both sides. so, right. so it will be a lot of people die. do i take from that then that you fundamentally disagree with the government in yerevan who say it is now simply a question of negotiating the right sort of dealfor your people, human rights and security rights for your people being guaranteed. but they say it is no longer an issue of territory or sovereignty. armenian government, the leader of armenia, said, whatever will make the decision, the leaders of artsakh, we will follow our choice first. second, we got already read clear messages from france, from the united states, from russia. but we also see this issue is not closed. the page is not turned down. this is why, d