to say don mcgahn was being somewhat difficult, and it was only cooperating some of the time. that was 15 minutes later. apparently, mr. mcgahn did tell the committee what he knows and what he saw and that the conclusion of today s testimony, chairman out there told reporters don mckenna to shed new light on several troubling events. another of the few lawmakers that was present in the closed-door session today confirmed don mcgahn detailed but the repeated pressure he got put under from former president trump, and the obstructive act he witnessed. those were laid out in the mueller report as potential instances of felony obstruction of justice. mueller said in the presentation of his report under questioning from congress that know currently sitting president could be prosecuted, could be indicted for those crimes, but a former president could be indicted for crimes like that. that was part of the reason why
and said that this would be the narrowest impeachment in histo history. just of dress the judge. i would make two points. hypocrisy and politics. again, politics always covers over impeachment. and we can debate all day about whether a particular obstructive act would qualify as the framers idea of a high crime and misdemeanor. the fact of the matter is if it was trivial or if it was a one-off, or if it was not suggestive of a heinous pattern of conduct, congress would not dare try to impeach over it, not because it did not fit some abstract legal definition, but because as a matter of politics he would not dare impeach over something like that. i happen to agree with the judge, i do not think that to the extent that john turley is taking the position that you either have to or you should go to the court if you are congress
mr. lewandowski had said had never occurred their longstanding relationship and he wanted mr. lewandowski to tell mr. sessions to pare down the russia investigation and if he wouldn t take that meeting he d be fired and that was an obstructive act and it took me 30 seconds to explain that and it took him hours to cop to that and it goes to the obstructive behavior that we ve seen from this white house. when you talk about it taking a long time, it did. in a lot of ways i have to say there were humorous moments and as an american citizen it was pretty depressing. you knew he was going to be like this, and he said as much on twitter and it didn t go anywhere. here s one of your exchange wes lewandowski and i ll play it. mr. lewandowski i ll put a slide up and it s the words that president bu president trump dictated to you on july 19, can you read what
something that you knew was against the law? i didn t think the president would ask me to do anything illegal. you didn t think it would have been illegal for you to ask mr. sessions to drop the investigation and to just go on to future presidents and omit everything with this president, say we re going to start with the next one about colluding with russia? you didn t think that was illegal to obstruct justice? congressman, the president didn t ask me to do anything illegal. lewandowski is ride or die, so that s what we got today. that s clear. that s clear. and i actually agree with what you said earlier, which is lewandowski, wily maybe not, but what he did effectively was essentially stick to his position, which is i was not told to do anything illegal. now, what john is absolutely right about is tons of evidence that, yes, frankly robert mueller found obstructive act, that it was connected to the grand jury investigation and
lose sight of is none of this is any indication for donald trump. it doesn t change anything about what comey was writing about in those memos which was donald trump demanding loyalty of him and trying to get him to shut down the investigation. those are still obstructive act. today s finding on comey has nothing to do with clearing trump. laura: how did he turn the ig-report slamming comey and turn it into trump is not vindicated? i am sad to say after i read the ig-report. trump didn t obstruct justice. he freed the justice department of a man who rejected our constitution and democracy. he decide the normal basic rules of the justice department did not apply to him in his crusade