something that you knew was against the law? >> i didn't think the president would ask me to do anything illegal. >> you didn't think it would have been illegal for you to ask mr. sessions to drop the investigation and to just go on to future presidents and omit everything with this president, say we're going to start with the next one about colluding with russia? you didn't think that was illegal to obstruct justice? >> congressman, the president didn't ask me to do anything illegal. >> lewandowski is ride or die, so that's what we got today. >> that's clear. >> that's clear. and i actually agree with what you said earlier, which is lewandowski, wily maybe not, but what he did effectively was essentially stick to his position, which is i was not told to do anything illegal. now, what john is absolutely right about is tons of evidence that, yes, frankly robert mueller found obstructive act, that it was connected to the grand jury investigation and