What weve been discussing w today, which involved in a regular channel, was a request that went against u. S. Policy that have have undermined the rule of law and our longstanding policy goals in ukraine, as in other countries in the postsoviet space. Those policies which were indeed championed by ambassador yovanovitch. You also testified on october 15th in the deposition about fundamental reforms necessary for ukraine to fight corruption and to transform the country. And you t cited the importance reforming certain institutions, notably was investigating President Trumps political opponents a part of those necessary reforms . Was it on that list of yours or indeed was it on any list . No, they werent. In fact, historically, is it not true that a major problem in the ukraine has been its misuse
of prosecutors, precisely to conduct investigation of political opponents. Thats a legacy i dare suggest from the soviet era when, as you stated in your testimony, prosecutors like the kgb were
To investigate what happened in the past and apply its own laws. No one in the new team had anything to do with anything that may have happened in 2016. They were making Television Shows at the time. Iral i also said it is credible to me that he would have been influenced by financial or personal motives in carrying out duties as Vice President. A different issue is whether some individual ukrainians may have attempted to influence the 2016 election or thought they could buy influence. That is at least plausible given ukraines reputation for corruption. The accusation that he acted independently did not seem credible to me. I connected mayor giuliani and the aide by text lantand later t i phone. They met in person on august 2, 2019. In conversations with me following that meeting which i did not attend, mr. Giuliani said that he had stressed the importance of ukraine conducting investigations into what happened in the past and mr. Yermoc stressed, he said it is their position to conduc
Gotcha sorry. [laughter] i wanted to ask you about public confusion, connected with Attorney General barrs release of your report. I will be coding you are in march 27th letter. Sarah, in that letter and at several other times did you convey to the Attorney General that the introductions and executive some summaries accurately i have to say the letter itself speaks for itself. And those were your words and that . Continuing with your letter, you are to the Attorney General that the summary letter the department sent to congress and released to the public late in the afternoon of march 24th did not fully capture the context, nature, and substance of this offices work and conclusions. Is that correct . Again, i rely on the letter itself for its terms. Thank you. What was it about the reports context, nature, substance that the attorneys letter did not capture . I think we captured that in the in the March 27th Responsive letter. This is from the letter. Im directing you to the letter its
Thank you, mr. Chairman. Welcome, everyone, to the last gas of the russia collusion Conspiracy Theory. As democrats continue to foist the spectacle on the American People, as well as you, mr. Mueller, the American People may recall the media first began spreading this Conspiracy Theory in the spring of 2016. When the fusion gps, funded by the dnc and the elder Clinton Campaign, started developing the Steele Dossier. A collection of outlandish accusations that trump and his associates were russian agents. Effusion gps, steel, and other confederates and to top officials in numerous agencies, quitting the fbi, the apartment of justice, and the state department. Among other things, the fbi used dusty allegations to obtain a
warrant to spy on the Trump Campaign. Despite acknowledging dusty allegations as being salacious and unverified, former fbi director james comey briefed those allegations to President Obama and president elect trump. This briefings conveniently leaked to the press. Laun
That it indicated to you that he had been prepped for the call, to expect this issue to come up. What led you to that conclusion . It seemed unlikely that he would be familiar with a Single Company in the context of a call that had that was on the broader bilateral relationship, and it seemed to me that he was either tracking this issue because it was in the press or he was otherwise prepped. Mr. Goldman. Thank you, mr. Chairman. Good morning to both of you. Good morning. On july 25th at approximately 9 00 a. M. You both were sitting in the situation room, probably not too much further away than you are right now, and you were preparing for a longawaited phone call between President Trump and president zelensky. Now, Colonel Vindman, in advance
of this phone call, did you prepare Talking Points as you did for the april 21st call . Yes, i did. What were those Talking Points based upon . They were so this is not in the Public Record and i cant comment to deeply, but what is the areas tha