. you cannot influence this process that ultimately will come down to what happens in that courtroom. 12 jurors one defendant table of prosecutors, and if they find him guilty, he s going to be a convicted felon, and there s just no dodging it. so this is a real moment, i think of reckoning for donald trump. and it s likely to be the beginning of a long the first chapter of a long book, perhaps if the charges are filed in other jurisdictions, this is just the beginning. major investigation major investigation so this is just a prelude of more that, maybe to come, and he may wind up traveling around the country, defending himself into a host of jurisdictions as the charges come in, so this is the beginning of a very significant chapter in his life and in the countries can i just make one point? we also this still has to go before a judge. a judge could knock these charges back. this is a novel a novel case, um this is not been attested legal theory. so we are predicting one course of ac
example of the criminalization of politics in this country, and it s one more example of the kind of drama that captures washington d c along it almost impossible for us to solve the problems in order politician if trump is convicted. of this these crimes that he s being charged with today should that disqualify him from being the republican presidential nominee or should he drop out if he s convicted? if it s a long way to that decision, i promised to answer that question if that approaches the possibility that a judge would even throw this case out before we even go to trial, so i don t want to talk about hypotheticals and all of this. what i want to tell you about is the american people are struggling under the failed policies of the biden administration at home and abroad and in an open forum in iowa, where the caucuses take place where the national conversation has always begun, historically about the future leadership of the country. this
there are so many different ways that he could be going. we re just not sure which ones he s assessed as being the strongest yet. what do you think? curiously, as you spoke to congressman kinzinger, he has to really look at what was lacking . in the january 6th public hearings. what was lacking in the christian that was there was there was never any direct statements really of the former president, united states while he was in office. to someone to either have a conspiracy or to have a direct instruction that had a straight line through it. that s why the testimony of vice president mike pence would be so critical. what did he say to you ? did he know that he had lost the election when he s telling the public something very different. how did you know that? he knew that what action did he want to take or for you to take as the person who was the head of the senate and that capacity it s so vital to have the who, what? when? where? why and these instances because that s the through lin
categorically immune from any and all criminal charges? no one is above the law, including former presidents. maybe clear on that point. and the american people know this. but in this case and controversy over campaign finance, i can t speak to the marriage of this case at all. but i could speak to the issue emanating out of the question over campaign finance should never have risen to the level to bring and unprecedented and historic prosecution against the trump have been treated differently than michael cohen, who went to jail for doing this. michael cohen went to jail for lying to congress. look this is an issue about campaign finances and it s a tenuous at best, and i ve even seen here on the airways of cnn. a whole lot of legal experts have been saying not this case, and prosecutors make these decisions all the time for everyday americans and for people in high positions and
being the one man with the authority to do something. if he s not guilty of some kind of crime for what happened. then, in this case i did then there is major loopholes in the law because i don t know who would be guilty for anything at that moment. so look, that s up to the i m not the lawyer. it s up to the justice department to make that decision. i ll trust that they come to the right answer, but knowing what i know about january 6th everything that led up to it and then on the actual day, my goodness, there s a lot of people that are paying a price as they deserve to for what they did on january 6th, but the guy that lit the fire certainly ought to need to pay a price as well. former congressman adam kinzinger, republican of illinois. thank you so much really appreciate it. good to s. yep. and i m back with our panel herg what jack smith, the special counsel looking into january, 6th not knowing what evidence he has uncovered. uh and not saying that you would support bringing thes