by the river, you know. right, right. this is an isolated area as well. but this is jammed. exactly right. so, what they ll do is undoubtedly, once they finish the forensic work they ve got to do around the site, then it will get back to business as normal around the cathedral, but the key is, again, once you ve determined whether there s any other threats, whether this individual s associated with anybody else, whether he knows of anything that s coming around, you know, there s all the work that goes in behind this. they ve got to establish his identity, start looking at known associates. is he somebody who s been on the radar screen as we had with a couple of individuals from the london bridge attack in london. that s right. and they step through this. the unfortunate reality is that whether we re talking about here in the u.s. or whether we re talking about the uk or france or germany, law enforcement and the intel community, they are very experienced at this by now,
we ve been facing in london as well. talking about london over the course of the last few days, where it is very difficult for security services to track all of the people, even the ones that come across their radars, you know, for any length of time. it takes resources that france or the uk simply don t have. and so, we re seeing with alarming regularity, really, and this has been the case in france over the course of the last few weeks, these smaller-scale attacks specifically targeting military or policemen and women. and in this case, just armed with a hammer. i mean, these are suicidal missions but that allow these individuals to cause the kind of chaos that you re seeing there on the streets outside notre dame, and in a sense, keep the public in a state of anxiety, this sense that we remain under siege and we continue to face this threat, which appears, perhaps, in the course of the last few days, as ramadan has opened, again to be picking up in intensitntensity. and the remind
still at the scene in the plaza area in he s still at the scene, you re hearing? he s still at the scene, you re hearing, jim? yeah. yeah, yeah. he s being treated by medics who are there in front of notre dame. and we can probably find there has been a picture that we had of security forces, which we believe was around the attacker at one point. we ll probably try to pull that up to show folks once again. i am getting an important update. i want to read it for everyone who s watching. this from paris police, now say the situation at notre dame is under control. one police officer wounded. the attacker this now according to police the attacker in a hospital. this is just handed to me just offset. very fluid. it is amazing. brian imagine the frightening scene inside that cathedral. yeah. we re seeing this picture from matthew. he s an american who lives in los angeles. he shared this on twitter about an hour ago, this image of people holding their hands up.
what s the first thing that they re going to do? what s the first thing that when the intelligence folks can get their hands on this person they need? first thing you do when you get your hands on anybody in this situation is to find out whether they know of any other attackers or any other imminent attack. you want to know if there s any other threats coming down the pike. and in this case, you know, if it s just the individual like, how do you establish because here s a key question. this is all happening in realtime. right. police, you can imagine we don t have our cameras there yet, but you can imagine there was chaos in the plaza outside notre dame cathedral. when do they know, when will they get to a point, what do they need to have to be reassured that it s okay for folks to go back in? as art mentioned, the protocols are you secure the area, obviously. you want to ensure there s nobody else in there, no other perpetrators, no other attackers. once you do that an
there are still efforts to create larger, more sophisticated, more coordinated attacks on a grander scale, not necessarily a 9/11 scale, but something of a larger note. and so, the concern within the community, within law enforcement and intel is what s still going on in that regard. and so, there s a tremendous amount of work that goes on off the radar screen to try to figure that out and to try to, again, minimize, disrupt, prevent. but while our attention right now is focused on these lone wolf or these small-scale attacks, believe me, isis, al qaeda elements and others they have not given up on their goal. their goal is a larger, more coordinated attack elsewhere. and art, as we ve been discussing, and hopefully you re still with us yes. this is what it appears to be, one man, at the moment, one man with a hammer attacking police outside notre dame. but the fact that it was, if i put it this way, just a hammer, does it make it any less concerning in the realm of sec