the crudest of devices, simply a hammer this time, and going straight for those policemen and women or military personnel who have been guarding paris monuments. so, i think this could prove and of course, we have to be cautious at this stage because we don t know what this man s motivations were and this is an ongoing police operation. a great deal of panic, we re hearing, around notre dame cathedr cathedral. this is one of those parts of paris that tends to have large crowds around it, lots of tourists milling about, visiting paris iconic cathedral. so, you can imagine the scene, since we re also hearing that as a result of this hammer attack, police fired back, shooting, although apparently not killing, the assailant. yeah, you can imagine the chaos out of necessity that created in that very crowded area. 14 million visitors to the notre dame cathedral every year. you can imagine how many people would have been there today. melissa, if you could stick with me as well, i want t
away. yeah, they just wanted us to get out of the plaza at that point. where are you now? are you still nearby? no, we got on we were on a tour bus, so we saw another bus that was stopping at that same bus stop, so we got on that one, and it actually dropped us back off kind of where they start the tour, but now we re back at our hotel just trying to stay safe at this point. yeah. that s absolutely understandable. well, thank you so much for jumping on. i really appreciate it, kyle. and thank god you and your wife are both safe. yeah, no problem. i really appreciate it. thank you. brian, we had the same reaction of just amazing. you can imagine the chaos we ve been talking about for everybody in that plaza or inside the cathedral at the time. then also, kyle says he was just in london as that terror attack was happening, he was in london as well. and both incidents taking a toll on his trip, obviously, and on all the tourists who might be at notre-dame. this was 4:3
time from one of these attacks how to change our law enforcement tactics. but i have to say that, you know, in the bigger picture, looking at this type of attack, we would much rather have them attack law enforcement than the public. obviously, if he was able to get to the unarmed public, within the cathedral there would have been a lot more injuries. but we ve learned from every one of these, but the terrorists also learn also. the attack in london to me, i went immediately back to the pulse nightclub shooting in orlando, where the individual had talked about explosives, which caused the delay in law enforcement responding to these particular scenes. so, each one of these, law enforcement does learn something new, they change their tactics and adapt to the new methods that the terrorists are using. mike, the latest we know, of course, is that he attempted to attack police with a hammer. policemen shot back, shot him, wounded him. we don t know how severely injured this person is at
and so, that s where i shot the other video of just all the cop cars coming in and the s.w.a.t. team getting their gear on to go into the plaza. and that s when they started yelling at us to get off the bus, to go up the street kind of away from notre-dame and just clear out the entire area. what was that like for you? you hear these gunshots, the urgency of the police. can you just describe what it was like when you guys were running away? you had no idea what was going on. caller: yeah, we had no idea what was going on. it was definitely terrifying. i mean, we were just in london two days before when that terrorist attack happened as well. so, we re still a little bit scarred from that. wow. caller: but it s definitely different when you don t understand the language in the country. i mean, i speak spanish, so i can understand a tiny bit of french. i mean, bits and pieces of it, but when they re yelling fast and yelling at everybody to get out of the way, you just kind of run
emergency until july. that s absolutely right, melissa. thank you for reminding me of that. with these live pictures mike, you ve been watching these first live pictures that we re getting in outside notre dame. i mean, you tell me what you see. i don t see a sense of urgency, a sense of alarm amongst the security forces here, but tell me what you see. what does this tell us? well, they re very professional, so they know what they re doing. they ve locked the area down. these folks are providing perimeter security and sort of crowd control. yeah. so, yeah, there s a sense of calmness there amongst the professionals that know what they re doing. and obviously, the fact that they ve got the attacker under control so quickly, that helps obviously calm things down as well. but i think it s worth noting, these small-scale attacks, if that s what you want to call them they re still horrific but they re capturing the headlines right now. within the intel and law enforcement commun