days before republicans assume the majority in the house and likely dissolve the january 6th committee, members released a new batch of testimony involving efforts of those closest to the former president and their attempts to overturn the election. i m pamela brown in for anderson tonight. and included in the new transcripts is testimony by donald trump jr. and remarks about what he believed was a, quote, sophisticated legal rationale to overturn the election, as in overturn the will of the people. one nearly identical to what his fathers allies would soon attempt. and there is also some rather unflattering testimony involving first lady melania trump s opinion of trump jr. and others in her husband s inner circle. also tonight, new details of a purported conversation involving senator lindsey graham who said he would become a champion of these baseless election fraud claims if the president s allies could, quote, just give me five dead voters. it is a lot to unpack. let s s
georgia. they can t get the president of the united states, which they re not going get. they re going get somebody pretty high up. i would be shocked if they weren t gunning for mark meadows, the department of justice and state of georgia at this point. what do you say to a viewer who might say that and say it sound like you might be putting all the blame on mark meadows. doesn t trump take the blame here? he put mark meadows in that role as well. i m not absolving the president or blaming mark meadows. i m making more of a realistic statement of fact. the president is not going to end up going down on this here. they withdrew the subpoenas. the committee today. yeah, the committee did. not doj. they withdrew all the outstanding subpoenas. proving criminal culpability is a much tougher thing than suggesting that somebody did something morally represent sensible there is a big difference between those two.
how does that work? well, it s called the president of the united states and because all the people work for him. all of the cabin-level officials work for executive. the president has to organize that. this is a president who tends to act a little bit more on impulse. we saw with the travel ban, on largely muslim countries and the chaos that that caused, plus the litigation that that caused which is still unresolved. i think you ll see something of the same thing here where it s going to be a lot of testing of what the agencies now do once they do get organized, the deal with this and it would be legal testing, in addition to the agencies existing laws that governs how the folks at the border are allowed to treat people who are coming across illegally and those laws stipulate you can t incarcerate a parent with a child more than 20 days, is this considered incarceration, temporary living, this would be a lot of challenges from another institution, not hhs, not doj,
from the washington post that one of the employees have been charged with possession and distribution of child pornography. and so i just ask that you ask the vice president and the vice chair chris kovach to answer our questions about that. if this staffer that s been charged with in horrendous crime had access to voter data including data for minors and what s the hiring process for this commission. well, we would fulfill our responsibility. i just continue to be very concerned. i think the direction should go to the commission. okay, they will. not doj. i thought maybe you could pass it on. thank you. along the lines of elections, senator warner and i have been working on a bill we think is really important and this is more just to bring it to your attention. and i know you ve recused yourself from the russia investigation. i respect that decision. i truly do. and there is just beyond that