credible that he would have thought that he would have been the only word accepted on his own role in this. it is, as you said, totally standard practice to triangulate, to get one witness to say one thing, you don t take their opinion. you check everybody else who might have been part of the same meeting or you check anybody else who might have a copy of the same record. we certainly did it during watergate. i have done it in every single trial i have ever been a part of because that s the only way you can get to the truth. and it s like richard nixon saying, just take my word for what the tapes say. i m going to give you a transcript. well, no, that s not evidence. and you don t take the word for what the tapes say. you listen to the tapes themselves. and that s the same thing here. getting phone records is completely ordinary, routine investigative practice. and this is just what i predicted in the beginning was
to resign over harassment allegations. republicans have done this most, though, and most in hollywood s home, drafting celebrities into california s highest offices. way back in the day, they promoted actor george murphy from tap dancing with fred astaire to dancing in the u.s. senate. and later republicans tapped sonny bono of sonny and cher into congress, and the most recent california governors of the modern era, reagan and schwarzenegger. both argued their lack of experience was an asset. i don t believe that just holding public office is the only way by which you can get experience for public office. if you re happy with the way things are, then keep your current leaders. if you want to change this state, then join me. now, reagan was compelled to do some governing before running for president. by the time the trump era hit,
business corruption tactics, which are a feature of authoritarian countries in the modern era because if you re on the right side of a putin or one of these strong men or women if you want, dictators, then you re placed in all these other positions, and so it becomes a sort of noncivic way, and even noncapitalist way to insure that as long as you re with the strong person, then you re good. that s right. and i think that, you know, it seems we ll see how this plays out. i was glad to see the s.e.c. went after this new quote/unquote social media start-up. if it gets off the ground, it s a brilliant insidious way to raise a lot of money very quickly. and you know, if trump has been good at anything, it s at kind of big number, big dollar value grifting. and i think some of the mockery
of nunes, i think maybe misses kind of the bigger game that s happening here. what does it mean that they even while the new york wing of trump org is under investigation, have all this secret money to play with? well, it means that you can operate really outside the law. you can operate outside normal election limits, and oversight, you know, that normal politicians operate under. so really what they re setting up is a giant operation, you know, either to put trump in the white house through appropriate electoral means or if he happens to lose through inappropriate electoral means. yeah, i hope people are hearing what you re saying because you re putting it very clearly, and there s a whole business discussion about whether special purpose acquisition companies and vehicles are a way to route
behavior of the trump administration, that trump probably had covid when he debated joe biden. and also kind of revealed how sick he was, made trump feel like he looked weak, and so there s reasons now for meadows to sort of reverse himself and try to get back in trump s good graces. all excellent points. and you remind everyone that meadows, you know, as far as the public narrative is concerned, meadows dropped a dime on trump in the book. and is trying to kind of have it both ways and maintain the relationship. jill, i m curious what you think of all of the above there. as well as the merrick garland question, because on paper, doj and prosecutors will always say, they just look at the case and make a decision. but michelle raises an incisive counterpoint to that, as she often does, which is yeah, but if they re both defying but meadows has found this way to position himself differently, and he was chief of staff, the