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MSNBC The Katie Phang Show June 4, 2024 12:16:00

justin, it s great to have you here. we spoke about this earlier, we joked, good lawyers, we have a copy of the complaint right here. i want to start out by saying, number one, i think it s a great complaint because it has so much detail. i would point out to our viewers, it s a verified complaint, which i, i find that to be amazing because a lot of people, a lot of people that suit, specially these kind of claims, they don t want to put under penalties of perjury allegations. being verified means, noel says, i believe everything i put in here is true. that is exactly right. she stands behind every word of this complaint, obviously, a very thorough investigation is done before this was pared and filed. it also means mr. giuliani, when he answers the complaint, we ll have to answer under oath. that s a wrinkle that our viewers need to understand. because it s a verified complaint, when giuliani and who s in response he has to do under oath? that s correct. let s talk about the

MSNBC The Katie Phang Show June 4, 2024 12:18:00

here. in this lawsuit as well, noel, we talked about it in the intro right now, she actually has evidence of conversations with rudy giuliani about plans to overturn the presidential election results. justin, this is not a case about that, it s not about 16. i believe some of the conversations about lowballs lawsuit is taking a side turn but that focuses on what happened to the wall as an employee of rudy giuliani. that s exactly right. we anticipated that mr. giuliani might argue, as he is doing now, she was not an employee. to explain some of the evidence that, she fact, was working for him and with them, we went into detail about what she was doing on many individual days, many conversations she had with him. some of these conversations are the one that he just mentioned. you know, they are there to show that they are working with mr. giuliani, mr. giuliani was involving her and her plans to generate revenue. that s consistent with her

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