involved are deeply upset by what s happened, they tried to talk him out of it, they tried to communicate with him they were unsuccessful, and now you have this far reaching investigation as to how this man from blackburn got into the united states, was able to get weapons and carried out the hostage situation. reeta. , ., ~ , carried out the hostage situation. reeta. , . ~ , . our security correspondent frank gardner is here. the fbi are saying this is an investigation with global reach. the indications investigation with global reach. the indications are that he was not on any us indications are that he was not on any us watchlist, he was not on a no fly any us watchlist, he was not on a no fly list. any us watchlist, he was not on a no fly list. he any us watchlist, he was not on a no fly list, he was able to fly into the united states two weeks ago, transiting the united states two weeks ago, transiting jfk airport, acquire a weapon transiting jfk airport, acquire a w
resisting creating a no fly zone because that would be an escalation against russia. can ukraine survive without this no fly zone? i think the most important issue is our ability to provide military aid to the ukrainians, and if we can continue to provide military aid to the ukrainians and find ways to do that, then i think i don t think it s necessary to consider a no fly zone. but if it comes down to a point where it is much more difficult to provide that aid, then i think we ought to at least keep that idea on the table in order to make sure that under any circumstances, ukraine gets the assistance they need to be able to keep fighting. right now, the key is to prolong this war as much as we can and
the other news that we were talking about is sumy. there have been airstrikes up here near the city of sumy. now there is this humanitarian corridor that they ve tried to open up south, baltova right there. from a military standpoint, what are the conversations around this? well, for a military organization that follows the geneva convention, that s a no fly no go zone. you don t go anywhere near it. you don t shoot anywhere near it. in my view the russians are using that as a way to bring their spies in. let the refugees go out, let them bring their logistics in. human shields. you re worried about the russians capitalizing on that. the ukrainians, how much do they need it in order to save lives? they don t want to go to russia. the only thing that s going to happen, they re going to have pictures taken of being liberated from ukraine. again, these are the proposed russian humanitarian corridors they were asking for. they go out to russian
country. everybody is touched to the core with heartbreak of what putin is doing. i think we have to be careful. i heard a number of commentators say this is just the way that russia operates. this is their kind of war. when we normalize it saying this is how they do it, it becomes more acceptable, i guess, on the international stage. this is not the way you do it in the 21st century. so the rest of the world has to stand up and do what we can. you know, i m angry most of the time but this is a cool medium and anger is said to blow out the lamp of the mind and i have to try to maintain and hopefully all of our leaders maintain as much control as we can under circumstances that are barbaric. there is a debate that rages can we have a partial no fly zone? i don t know how you define that and go from partial to full given the either the
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