watch this. so that was ukrainian forces using soldier fired missiles and joining me now is defense secretary, former defense secretary william cohen. happy to have you and i learn so much from you. appreciate it. ukrainians are putting up a pierce resistance but today we saw putin s forces are willing to strike women and children in hospitals, babies, right? unborn babies and now the white house is warning that russia could use chemical weapons in ukraine with a madman calling the shots. what can the rest of the world do? well, we can hold the course. at this particular point, i can tell you in this household there are a thousand tears shed every night. i got members of my family that can t sleep spread around the
this is don lemon tonight. our breaking news, as russia s bombardment turns bloodier by the day, russia could decide to use chemical or biological weapons and putin might make up a false flag lie using them. that warning coming as russia is accused of bombing a maternity and children s hospital in mariupol, the southern city russia has been plummeting for days and the refugee crisis in ukraine growing. more than 2 million people have fled the country since the invasion began two weeks ago. we ll get straight to ukraine and cnn s michael holmes live in livi. these images are heartbreaking. a mother carried out on a stretcher by volunteers and this pregnant woman bloodied up trying to make her way down a flight of damaged stairs. what are you making of this
he s been mpleading with nato t establish the no fly zone and i know the fear is triggering a wider war. but is there a point that this needs to be considered or as you said, you know, should we stay the course? america, nato, stay the course now and not even a partial as you say or a limited no fly zone? well, if someone can explain to me how you can construct a limited no fly zone that doesn t spill over into a full scare and one mistake with a limited no fly zone can escalate into something that s a atrocio but go on, please. fshor the russians to take o of our aircraft out or us take them out and putin say you declared war against russia and expand it. i don t know as heart broken as the american people are, i don t know how many of the american people would say it s time to
risk going to war with russia. perhaps he is just bluffing. you know, there is an old expression that a bluff that s taken seriously can be helpful but a threat that is not taken seriously can be catastrophic. a serious threat that we ignore. i think we have to walk very carefully here before we say mr. putin, you have krocrossed the e and we re prepared to take action on your forces on the ground and air. i think that s something that the american people will not support and i don t think the american leadership is going to support that. the question is can we keep ukraine people alive long enough for these sanctions to really hit the russian people because that that is what is going to change this war is when the russian people see the truth. when they see what their president is doing to their fellow sitcitizens and the
inexperience of the conscripts who are in the front lines or some of the generals who are now ordering these missile shots from 15, 20, 30 miles away. i think what we have to do is continue to give the ukrainian people as much support as we can, keep pouring in the air defense systems that we have and the stinger missiles and the ability to take out tanks with the javelin and other types of perhaps armed uavs so we can put them over the skis and see the russian troops and hit them where they are but not putting aircraft in the air beyond what they have now as far as the ukrainian air force. i think we re trying to really thread the needle here but it may come to a point in time where we re no longer able to say this is acceptable, this is a red line there you cannot cross. right now, putin is the only one drawing red lines saying if you try to put any kind of air defense equipment in or aircraft in, that s a red line.