if you want to protect america and defeat isis, rick santorum s your president. because serious times need serious people. joining me now is former senator rick santorum, candidate for president. thanks for being here. good to be here. what s changed in four years? you re seeing it up close campaigning in iowa. i think there s been a lot of changes in the way american politics works. i m curious what you see firsthand as a candidate in iowa. well, i can tell you the most difficult thing, at least from my perspective, is the nationalization of this campaign. i think the debates have been a bit of a well, not a bit. a disaster. the way that it s been they ve sort of set up a hierarchy of candidates based on numbers that on national polling. on national polls which have proven to be pretty much irrelevant when it comes to actually who the nominee is going to be. i think that stratification and then you have this unusual factor. you have i think rubio and christie cal
because of national polling and how much i agree with rick santorum on how much the debates played a role in creating that monster. i think anybody would have been shocked and drummed out of washington for suggesting such a thing could happen. and yet here we are. so regardless of whether the national polls are the right way to go or whether we ought to localize elections, what we re stuck with is a likely trump nominee at this point. even if cruz takes iowa, even if christie takes new hampshire, trump is leading in south carolina. he s likely to take florida. he s likely to take super tuesday states. he s likely to be the republican nominee. and i think that s something that we all sort of spent the holiday break, republican party, democratic party and the press coming to terms with. this is happening. and if somebody other than trump it s been there for a lot longer than others. that s the question. i heard what rick santorum just said. and i actually heard that from a bunch
polls, trump and cruz, are running against the party itself. the person who personifies the republican party establishment, the son and brother of a republican president, jeb bush, is getting low single digits. my sense is there s revolution in the air. remember the french revolution when anyone with even a taint of the aristocracy had their heads chopped off? it s like that today in the republican party. the only candidates that are trusted enough, the only ones getting any good numbers in the polls are the ones who have never held any public office whatsoever. the people in trouble are those who have held office. their resumes are being treated like rap sheets. they are the ones being marched to the guillotine. i think there s a good chance that no establishment candidate, no bush, no rubio, no kasich, no christie will win a single caucus or primary. certainly none of the important early ones. and that is a statement of what voters in the republican party think of the party. that the
conscience, and that s very significant. so harris and comstock went to work, studying the case and learning all about arturo gutierrez. he should have said something to the investigators because you d think he d want to help who killed christie, if he cared about her, if he wasn t involved in the murder he would assist, and that was not what he was doing. so harris and comstock went to work, studying the case and learning all about arturo gutierrez. knowing who they were dealing with would help determine how to handle him. when you think of strategies and that s why i love cold cases you re only limited by your imagination, your creativity and ethically what
a few minutes later i called again. the line was busy. i called, called, called. her phone was busy all saturday morning which seemed strange. so rhonda went to her mother s house anyway, thinking her younger sister would show up, but christie wasn t there, which was very usually, because she was always on time, never, never late, and my mom hadn t talked to her. i called christie again. the phone was still busy. now i know something is wrong. panic now. rhonda called her father, bud fleming. he was divorced but raised both girls and kept close tabs on them, especially christie, who was single. he hadn t talked to her either. as soon as he hung up the phone from me, he drove to her house. he knew there was something wrong. rhonda followed him, found