chief legal correspondent ari melber, legal analyst, andrew weissmann, and my friend and colleague, msnbc anchor katy tur. rachel, we re about to hear from jack smith himself. if i have to interrupt you abruptly, i apologize in advance. your thoughts right now. reading the indictment, nicolle, i was struck by the simplicity of it structurally. this is not a case where we need to wait for somebody to flip. there s no allen weisselberg character out here who we need to find out how much they re going to tell prosecutors. there s no opaque question of intent that we need to wait to see if prosecutors have some access to. there s no, you know, contingent second crime that elevates these things to a more serious thing. all things that we ve seen in other serious cases involving trump and his business. in this case this is straightforward. what they re laying out, it s an accusation. it is not a conviction. what they re accusing him of is that he was not allowed to have this stuf
retains or reclaims the majority in the house and the senate. now, polls just closed moments ago in new york, which is one of three states holding the final primaries of this month. frankly, all eyes are on the race that has pit two of the most powerful democrats in this country against one another. now, how powerful? well, one does chair the house judiciary committee, and the other, the house oversight committee. both have been in congress for three decades, and tonight one of them, or maybe even possibly both of them, could actually lose their seat. so why are they even against each other for the very first time? i ll tell you one word redistricting. but it s not just the map they re up against, and into this mix you can add the long-shot lawyer, seraj patel. politics, especially in washington, d.c. and beyond, has a funny way of turning friends and colleagues into rivals, and that is what s happening here. maloney has allegedly been saying to people privately that nadler
chief legal correspondent ari melber, legal analyst, andrew weissmann, and my friend and colleague, msnbc anchor katy tur. rachel, we re about to hear from jack smith himself. if i have to interrupt you abruptly, i apologize in advance. your thoughts right now. reading the indictment, nicolle, i was struck by the simplicity of it structurally. this is not a case where we need to wait for somebody to flip. there s no allen weisselberg character out here who we need to find out how much they re going to tell prosecutors. there s no opaque question of intent that we need to wait to see if prosecutors have some access to. there s no, you know, contingent second crime that elevates these things to a more serious thing. all things that we ve seen in other serious cases involving trump and his business. in this case this is straightforward. what they re laying out, it s an accusation. it is not a conviction. what they re accusing him of is that he was not allowed to have this stuff. he knew
through the boxes by hand in late 2021. so let s break that down. trump personally looked at these documents. multiple people can potentially testify as witnesses to that fact, and he did it last year. that is very, very bad. there is no galfall guy. he can t dump it on meadows. there s no allen weisselberg here. he did this. his fingerprints literally and figuratively are on these documents, and we have not heard a defense. we have not heard a single coherent defense. the only one they could possibly posit would be that he looks the literacy skills to understand what was in the boxes. but of course all you need to see is they were confidential, top secret, and he was told multiple times and also to clarify an important point here that sort of gets lost, when we use terms like classified, that might be someone s social security number. it may not be something that s a national security secret.