Now on bbc news, political thinking with Nick Robinson hello and welcome to political thinking, a conversation with, rather than a news interrogation of, someone who shaped our political thinking about what has shaped theirs. My guest this week is a daughter of what we still euphemistically called the troubles the 30 years or more of violence which scarred Northern Ireland and the british mainland divided communities and claimed the lives of more than 3000 people. Emma little pengelly is the new deputy First Minister of Northern Ireland. She grew up on the border with the south, the place with the highest death toll outside belfast. Her father was arrested and imprisoned in france for involvement in Arms Trafficking for hardline loyalists back in the 1980s, something he still denies to this day, though, he did once say publicly he would oppose compromise to the bitter end, to the death. Compromise that is with people like the First Minister of Northern Ireland, michelle 0neill of sinn
declaring his involvement in helping britain s former prime minister, borisjohnson, secure a loan. thousands of people in new zealand are left without power as parts of the country endure the start of a severe storm with warnings of more destruction to come. you re watching bbc news. now it s time for political thinking with nick robinson hello and welcome to political thinking. the row about how and why a rapist called adam ended up in a women s prison has shone a spotlight on a debate which in truth, has been raging notjust for months, but for years. at the centre of that debate is the charity and campaigning organisation stonewall. my guest on political thinking this week is the new chair of stonewall. he s iain anderson and he s got a cv that might surprise you. he s a lifelong conservative. he went to school with michael gove in aberdeen and he ended up running a leadership campaign for ken clarke. he s also a westminster insider who s operated behind the scenes at very
as you approach general election, it s in your dna. i m not a tribal person, but i ve been part of a tribe. so it s hard. now, i ve mentioned a couple of times that you re successful and married. it raises the question whether your husband, whether your business partners, haven t said to you, iain, are you mad? you re successful in your 50s. why on earth would you step into this minefield? because i care about it, nick. i care about it. and lots of things kind of come together in this place. you know, we ve had in some places today quite a hard conversation. but that does not mean it s not worth doing. and, you know, my dream is to get to a place where we can continue
declaring his involvement in helping britain s former prime minister, borisjohnson, secure a loan. thousands of people in new zealand are left without power as parts of the country endure the start of a severe storm with warnings of more destruction to come. you re watching bbc news. now it s time for political thinking with nick robinson hello and welcome to political thinking. the row about how and why a rapist called adam ended up in a women s prison has shone a spotlight on a debate which in truth, has been raging notjust for months, but for years. at the centre of that debate is the charity and campaigning organisation stonewall. my guest on political thinking this
a personal view, to be absolutely clear, this is a personal view, having been a conservative for most of my life, that the conservatives have gone backwards. i mean, look, it s theresa may that promised that there would be an all inclusive ban on conversion therapy. she promised that five years ago, now, nick. and we are now as i think we are all agreed, we are now running out of time in terms of what s actually doable in this parliment, so, how long do lgbtq+ people in this country have to wait to see a conversion therapy ban actually take place? and yet. there are founders of your organisation, founders of stonewall, proud gay men and women, who fought for gay rights, who say you no longer speak for us. you assert that there