segment. i m going to tell you what else we have coming because we are tracking a separate a new criminal subpoena for trial lawyer rudy giuliani. there s also some signs of the january 6th probe is breaking through with independence and the younger tiktok crowd. michael steele will be here for a segment that we hope will be as sharp as it is viral. perhaps. tiktok reference. by the end of the hour, we will be talking bob dylan, barack obama and kurt cobain with the right icon you see. the one and only dave grown on the beat tonight for our special mavericks interview. you might say the energy is contagious. here we are now. entertain us. but it s too early in the broadcast for lyrics. even for the beat. so let s just get to this top story. judgment day for steve bannon. the prosecution resting after calling the witnesses that they say will prove this and send him to prison. we will get into this with mr. gerstein as i mentioned but there is a method to the speed of the d
you can t get much detail out of this. and it was approved by a judge. which does tell us something. although not what is under the redaction. so we have this unprecedented clash over federal powers, over the prerogatives of a former president. the suspicion about criminal evidence. all of this is here in the ballpark. and if you ve heard today or tonight, we know everything now and i could tell you, no we don t. we obviously have to be careful about what is redacted. we re learning new things. so i m going to go through the facts with you right now. the road map here that has been released, the affidavit, shows how agent recovered the highly classified documents and then based on that timeline and the information, they saw a grave need to go back into-n to do a search to get the rest of them. they found that the trump had, in the doj view, stolen material that involves secret clandestine human source and intelligence. that is the kind of material that is supposed to stay on
accelerated psych and we re under all these pressures to come up with something new, and there s still a lag. there s still things sinking in outside in the real world. i always remember that whether i m home sick or get to sneak away. so shout-out to reality. is that what it is? yeah, because this is only a version of it in a box. but great to have you back, nicole. thank you very much. absolutely. nice to catch up with nicole. as she mentioned, sometimes inside the news it does seem like it s going really fast. well, that s the actual case today. so welcome to the beat. begins the congress building on the case that got a trump white house aide indicted friday. that s the news nicole was just referring to a liptically. there s also going to be the first primetime hearings andty january 6th this week, and they say there s sign of damning new evidence. the select committee has found evidence about a lot more than incitement here, and we are going to be laying out
meetings before and i relate to them but i want to be in the category where it is considered to be a substantive story. exactly. and so i teed that up to you as such a big thinker given what your exploring in your book. how have you approached traditionally political clashes which are legitimate, conservatives say well you want smaller government, less funding of schools, at the federal level. a different foreign policy, that is all legitimate. and the category when you go, wait a minute, we have a nixon or a pollpot level of problem that people want to take power. how do you do that? i m curious? it is a great question. it is a great journalism and news question and a political question. i think in my case i have always, i ve never been the insider white house guy. i ve never been someone who is terribly interested in donald trump as someone who is going to impose this great psych logical study on him. i ve been much more interested in the systems, the people who
let me ask you a news question while i spread the love to my friend, nicole wallace, who has been incredibly gracious in ways that i can never repay. bannon and meadows are playing beat the clock. it s it s very clear. is there a scenario, phil, where the committee accrues so much material on them that their testimony and it may include up to and not limited to taking the fifth becomes less important? sure. you know, every day the committee gets more information, you know, the testimony, the words of steve bannon and mark meadows are less important simply because more of the holes are being filled by outside testimony, by documents, by all the other information the committee is gathering. that being said, there are certainly questions that they have that steve bannon will only be able to answer. and there are probably more questions that mark meadows will