you can t get much detail out of this. and it was approved by a judge. which does tell us something. although not what is under the redaction. so we have this unprecedented clash over federal powers, over the prerogatives of a former president. the suspicion about criminal evidence. all of this is here in the ballpark. and if you ve heard today or tonight, we know everything now and i could tell you, no we don t. we obviously have to be careful about what is redacted. we re learning new things. so i m going to go through the facts with you right now. the road map here that has been released, the affidavit, shows how agent recovered the highly classified documents and then based on that timeline and the information, they saw a grave need to go back into-n to do a search to get the rest of them. they found that the trump had, in the doj view, stolen material that involves secret clandestine human source and intelligence. that is the kind of material that is supposed to stay on
you can t get much detail out of this. and it was approved by a judge. which does tell us something. although not what is under the redaction. so we have this unprecedented clash over federal powers, over the prerogatives of a former president. the suspicion about criminal evidence. all of this is here in the ballpark. and if you ve heard today or tonight, we know everything now and i could tell you, no we don t. we obviously have to be careful about what is redacted. we re learning new things. so i m going to go through the facts with you right now. the road map here that has been released, the affidavit, shows how agent recovered the highly classified documents and then based on that timeline and the information, they saw a grave need to go back into-n to do a search to get the rest of them. they found that the trump had, in the doj view, stolen material that involves secret clandestine human source and intelligence. that is the kind of material
to the specific. is it one page or two, is it three? well, we learned today with more detail than before it is many, many such pages and that means there is a lot of stuff that a judge has independently verified has credibly necessarily to keep secret that relates to what the heck donald trump and other people were up to down at mar-a-lago. that is bad for him. and one more thing, the evidence here shows the fbi and doj asserting that they were looking at potential criminal activity at trump s house. let me repeat. criminal activity, suspicion thereof at mar-a-lago. now we don t know who exactly is suspected of that activity. but again for the first time we have this explicit reference about probable cause that evidence of obstruction would be found at those very premises.
say the insurrection was legitimate discourse that shouldn t be bullied. so make of that what you will. and then you have the republicans who basically coddle trump s election lies beforehand and then condemned ant the attack and then reverted back to minimizing the attack. they are is some say, completed devoted to trump. which brings us to our next guest who said those very words. mark liebovich, her new book is thank you for your servitude and the price of submission. a lot of dominant language there. welcome to the show. hi, ari. thanks for having me on. what do you think of the president using the f-word of fascism. well, he said semi, there so there was a modifier there. it was interesting. the biden white house hasn t come out and leaned into the fascism, autocracy,
practice to seek less intrusive means. that is what he said, asha, that is just him saying we tried. today we learned with the most detail ever that it was at least six months where donald trump would not just comply. yes and i think even longer. because it sounds like narra was tried to communicate with trump starting in may of last year. and they finally got the first set of sloppy packed boxes in january. and then we re trying to negotiate with him through may to get what was left. so, it is been a year and a half and again this is a high traffic area where people god knows who would have access and i think there is reporting now that there was some person, a ukrainian person who was misrepresenting who they were. this was not a secure place and would be a big target for foreign intelligence services