entitlement. he would much rather fight jeb bush and front-runner tying for national frontrunner ben carson is very hard target, very nice guy, accomplished, african-american, great life story. how do you attack that guy. trump wants bush. the problem for trump, bush is another podium away. his slide in the polls put him further away. marco rubio is going to be between trump and bush and rubio will be caught in the crossfire a good bit i would imagine. martha: yeah. let s take a look at one other poll here. this is monmouth poll that we have. it shows iowa, the gop presidential race. in this one carson is out by a mile, 32% to 18. marco rubio and cruz at 10 and jeb bush at eight here. as you say, i mean, ben carson in many ways is sort of the perfect iowa candidate, is he not? and he s a story that perhaps later on people look back, oh,
all over the lot. one guy up here, somebody else is there. swings of 10 and 12 points. like, immediately even the same day. so right now it s not very scientific. so he says these things aren t very scientific. that s when he s not in the top though, right? he s been using the polls as his jumping stone, rightfully so. he s been at the top. two more polls came out that also put him at 35% well above carson. you know, irregardless of what happens with the polling here, i think carson even if he does surge like he has surged in this new york times poll he doesn t have the political staying power or public eye experience to maintain this number. all right. that was him when he s not at the top. here he is when he s winning, though. but we re really winning, we re winning everything. everything. every state. we re winning everything. we re leading every poll. leading every state. i m not going anywhere. today is the 100th day that we ve been number one in every single poll. you k
former president bush saying eventually the american people will say who has the experience necessary to be president. who has iran state, for example. jeb painting marco rubio as our current commander-in-chief. saying rubio and president obama have strikingly similar profiles. you can talk about ben carson, or donald trump and so many candidates who don t have experience like jeb bush did as a two-term governor in florida. martha: one of the things we learned from this poll is movement is possible and likely
polls donald trump is losing ground. not just that carson is rising. it is trump is on a downward trajectory, down i believe five points since his, the last installment of this poll. martha: yee. what we see is that it tends to be, i think, a problem with female voters and problems with evangelical christians who make up enormous bloc of the republican party. martha: what is so fascinating here, to watch how trump will respond to this. we re starting to see some of it. he says when i get punched i get counterattacked. he is getting a little bit of a punch from the poll numbers. over last month down 5% for trump, up 5% for carson in this poll. so here s a little bit, we re starting to get a sense how he will go after ben carson. here he is this morning on another network. let s listen to that. a lot of things will come out like, ben cast, he was pro-abortion not so long ago as
they re not getting anywhere at all, karl? does anything change that. well, sure there is and you see it in the poll this morning. i agree with what chris stirewalt said earlier this is one poll. you shouldn t sort of say trump is in second place, carson first but there is an interesting number in there reflected in other recent polls. seven out of 10 people in the cbs/new york times poll say it s too early to make a decision. recent poll said 64% of the people side it is too early to make a decision. many people who made a decision are not stuck on their decision. trump was in the cbs/new york times poll, only put out a couple of these numbers but half the people who said they were for trump, 11% out of 100 said, i made up my mind, i m nor trump and i m not going to change my mind. with ben carson in the lead with 2points, five points out of 100, five points said i m stuck on carson. look, all the people stuck on trump or carson are not necessarily stuck.