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MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show November 23, 2021 09:29:00

colleagues at the washington post about just how serious the ongoing investigations into that potential fraud are. we ve known a state prosecutor in manhattan, the manhattan district attorney, had convened a new grand jury recently to hear evidence about the trump organization, to consider charges along this front. we also knew that new york s attorney general, tish james, has her ongoing civil investigation into matters related to this stuff as well. but today s post reporting adds new details into how they re going about digging into trump s finances. for instance, a.g. tish james has apparently gone after records from trump s california golf club saying this even though that s in california and she s the new york a.g., her office, nevertheless, has jurisdiction because trump was a new york resident at the time he was submitting wildly different valuations for that process. the a.g. s office has also reportedly asked for hundreds of thousands of pages of documents including geolo

MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show November 23, 2021 02:29:00

property that trump has pulled this kind of a stunt with. this habit of mr. trump and his company was first brought to public attention in congressional testimony from trump lawyer michael cohen, who claimed that trump inflated and deflated these values wildly and, importantly, purposely to deceive banks and insurance companies and tax authorities, which if it was done purposely, intentionally for that purpose, that would be criminal fraud. well, now we have new reporting from david fahrenthold and his colleagues at the washington post about just how serious the ongoing investigations into that potential fraud are. we ve known a state prosecutor in manhattan, the manhattan district attorney, had convened a new grand jury recently to hear evidence about the trump organization, to consider charges along this front. we also knew that new york s attorney general, tish james, has her ongoing civil investigation into matters related to this stuff as well. but today s post reporting adds

New grand jury seated as Donald Trump criminal probe continues

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convened a special grand jury to consider evidence in a criminal investigation into former president trump s business dealings. seven minutes after that, it was abc news. that also independently matched the key point in this new reporting. manhattan district attorney convenes special grand jury in trump probe. a special grand jury has been convened to consider the possibility of criminal charges against president trump and people related to his business. now, does this mean former president donald trump is going to be indicted? does this mean he s going to be criminally charged? i don t know. and neither do you, and anybody who tells you they know the answer to that for sure, umm, that s somebody you might enjoy hearing stories from, but don t necessarily assume they re true. we don t know. you can t have an indictment unless you have a grand jury. but having a grand jury does not

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investigation, and it locks witnesses in a version of the events, if she says the light was green at the accident, and later forgets, you have a transcript of proof of what color the light was when she saw the accident. so really important to lock in witnesses, and one other effect, it s such a good one. you don t go to a grand jury simply to indict. i think that would be unethical, and foolish. you ask a grand jury toin diet when you believe you have evidence sufficient to convict a trial. nothing is gained in indicting a case f you don t convict a trial. that requires proof beyond a reasonable doubt, and they will ask to indict when they have a higher standard met. so we don t know if that s the ultimate place it ends up,

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