offering jobs to their current workers who want more hours. there s a real exciting movement just launching now to tackle these problems. i think we ll see that across the country. neera, we also are seeing that a lot of business leaders will be at this working families zub summit. is there and increasing recognition among business leaders that maybe having policies that would be good for their workers would be good for their company s bottom line? there is. you saw the gap raise their minimum wage higher. you saw a lot of companies recognize that when wages are down, there s not enough customers for them. so i think people recognize that. also, i would like to add, though, you have to keep in mind that there s another whole set of policies in which the u.s. is far behind its competitors, and that s on policies that help women workers, mothers, and the united states is one of a handful of countries that
but mostly by not being sorry. that stirred a lot of debate online and a lot of ire for its oversimplification of women s problems in the office, at home or in society in general. it raised a question that s been batted around over the last year, whether women s empowerment involves telling them to fix themselves, lean in, stop banning sorry, ban the word boss see. more needs to be done to change workplace norms and behavior toward women as in the spore raddic all women campaign. a lot i want to get into here. joining me to discuss all of it is irin car moan of msnbc.com and el joy williams, president of the brooklyn chapter of the naacp. ladies, it s just an ad, not that big a deal. something about it irritated me. a fu things like lean in, the confidence code book which i really enjoyed. there s this sense that, if
hillary clinton campaigns. basel, let me start with you on this question, do you think that hillary what do you think is the reason hillary is running for president? i think we all here basically accept the fact she s running for president. i m not going to be 100% that she is. fair enough. i do think fundamentally, and this sort of goes back to your comment about in the comparison to mitt romney. when mitt romney was talking about the 47%, he said it with destain, very patronizing. i think ultimately the comparison to hillary clinton is wrong because i think what we should be focused on is, and separate from how the republicans think about this, is how she believed government should be used to help the most disadvantaged among us. how is government best used to
i actually firmly believe that. i ve been on conference calls where we ve talked about issues and you can hear it come out. i think blake is right, that there is this perception of her and in some ways stops a lot of folks stop telling the story beyond a certain point. just very quickly, 2000 campaign, we had a raleigh, a whole bartter williams college, she stayed and shook 2,000 hands and waited for the last person to leave. that s not going to get written about. let me say, as i ve been critical here, i hope you guys are all right. i twoont see that side. i want to believe that. i think she will be our next president. i want to believe she will be that person that will focus like a laser on inequality. i want to thank basel smikal junior, neera tanden, president of the center for american progress and former clinton and obama spokesman, blake zeff. thank you all. still ahead, it s finally
billion, agreed to a budget deal that failed to extend unemployment insurance. so to me there s a bigger conversation to have with the democratic party. neera, there s something to that, right? we had the president trying to cpi to the republicans in exchange for a grand bargain. has the democratic party as a whole been moved too far to the right? you know, i agree that some of these decisions that have been made are not ones that i would have made. but i think we re doing a lot of tea leaf reading here. hillary, if she runs for president, she ll state her views on all of these issues. and i disagree with blake that we know what her positions will be on all these issues. in the budget negotiations she might have been tougher, she might have agreed to the same thing. who knows? she ll be able to say these things when she s running. in my experience hillary has been a strong fighter on economic issues.