know or hear about nuclear emp, they wouldn t meet with the chairman of our commission, dr. william graham, the world s foremost expert on this. he was one of the people that discovered the phenomena in the 1962 star fish prime test when i was in elementary school. imagine not meeting with dr. william graham. it would be like not meeting with albert einstein when he s trying to tell thought nazis could develop the atomic bomb in 1939. that s how irresponsible the administration was. shutting the door on the albert einstein of emp, dr. william graham, not listening to him, not following the reldations, when the commission was reestablished by congress, obama and holdovers did everything they could to sabotage and undermine our work. mark: why? emp did not fit into the narratives that they had for trying to sell two of the obama administration s major foreign policy objectives. one was the idea of a world
restaurant. police say he could still be armed. southwest airlines cancels about 40 flights as mechanics inspect planes s engines. a 737 engine exploded midflight sending shrapnel flying, one of the windows blew out and a passenger 43-year-old jennifer riordan of new mexico was partially sucked out. she died of injuries. i m kelly wright. now back to life, liberty & levin. . mark: welcome back. all right, dr. pry, now what can we do to defend ourselves? there s really no excuse for the united states to be vulnerable to emp or cybercatastrophes to bring down the grid or physical sabotage. all can be protected against, if you protect against the worst threat. the nuclear emp attack, we ve known how to do that for 50 years. the department of defense
result of high power lines getting knocked down and transformers being damaged. if you can survive the worst threat, the nuclear emp attack, you will be able to come back much more quickly from the lesser threats. not just for the rare exotic scenario of terrorist nuclear emp attack, it would improve the security on tornadoes, hurricanes, ice storms that cause blackouts. you don t have to be a physicist to see the grid is at risk. if you look at history of blackouts and the long recovery times that are required after there s these hurricanes, you can see there s something wrong. look at puerto rico, you know? you know, puerto rico is still not recovered as a result of the hurricane that went through there. you know, clearly if something like puerto rico is going to absorb the emergency resources of the continental united states to get its recovery, we re going to be in huge trouble if a nuclear emp takes
novelty. this switch, this biode is the basis for the electronics, cell phones, computers, operate on the single switch. and they are millions of times more vulnerable to emp than the crude piece of instrumentation. and that would put our civilization at risk if we had a natural emp, if a nuclear emp attack that put all of north america on the . mark: i want to get to the nuclear scenarios, the terrorist scenarios, but first, you can describe what the electrical grid looks like in this country and who runs the electrical grid in this country? sure, we have 3,000 different utilities that run the electrical grid, privately owned. not run by the government. mark: the regional companies that all work with each other? yes, that s right. we have our north american grid is divided into three parts, an
attack is not an emp attack. the combination of it is irresistible, just like the blitzkrieg that the newsy germany came up with with irresistible and nearly defeated the western democracies in world war ii. if we don t protect our systems, there will be no coming back from it. and the bad guys would win, in their doctrine, they would replace one civilization with another in 24 hours. mark: we have the ability to do this to our adversaries and enemies as well, correct? well launching a missile, nuclear missile? exploding it above a particular country and so forth, do we? we have the capability, not as good as the russians and chinese and north koreans have, they have probably developed super-emp weapons, specially designed for emp. united states has neglected nuclear forces and we haven t