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novelty. this switch, this biode is the basis for the electronics, cell phones, computers, operate on the single switch. and they are millions of times more vulnerable to emp than the crude piece of instrumentation. and that would put our civilization at risk if we had a natural emp, if a nuclear emp attack that put all of north america on the . mark: i want to get to the nuclear scenarios, the terrorist scenarios, but first, you can describe what the electrical grid looks like in this country and who runs the electrical grid in this country? sure, we have 3,000 different utilities that run the electrical grid, privately owned. not run by the government. mark: the regional companies that all work with each other? yes, that s right. we have our north american grid is divided into three parts, an

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