red skin is a slur. let me ask you this, lanny. remember there used to be a restaurant chain called sambo s. and you know, basically, people didn t think about it just like they didn t think about redskins for a long time. eventually people realized you can t have a restaurant change in the united states called sambo s. it s derogatory. isn t it time for the redskins to recognize it s the same thing? it s wrong to have a name like this. you know, i hate in a historic moment they would ever disagree with jeffrey toobin on anything. but jeff, if you ask native americans are you offended by the word indians they didn t come from india. we re calling them native americans tonight on the show because we don t say indians anymore. that s not true. a lot of native americans don t mind indian . the focus is on the redskins and the cleveland indians. it s about a sports team. we mean no offense. i take your point. some people are offended. but the only data we have, and in virginia t
eventually people realized you can t have a restaurant change in the united states called sambo s. it s derogatory. isn t it time for the redskins to recognize it s the same thing? it s wrong to have a name like that. you know, i hate in a historic moment they would ever disagree with jeffrey toobin on anything. but jeff, if you ask native americans are you offended by the word indians they didn t come from india. we re calling them native americans tonight on the show because we don t say indians anymore. that s not true. a lot of native americans don t mind indian. the focus is on the redskins and the cleveland indians. it s about a sports team. we mean no offense. i take your point. some people are offended. but the only data we have, and in virginia the virginia tribes are uniformly against changing the name. but there are other tribes against it. most native americans. and most americans, nine out of ten native americans, eight out of nine in 2013, jeff, all
hostage. holding our government hostage. holding the u.s. hostage. hold the entire country hostage. hold them hostage. don t hold anyone hostage. they took hostages. hostage taking. stop taking hostages. they had to take the country hostage. back with our panel again, the fifth chair new york times op ed columnist has been writing recently about all the trash talking. since many of the top figures in the standoff seem so fond of hostage. we thought we d bring in lead fbi international negotiating director. chris i ve heard you say when you were actually negotiating with a hostage taker or hostage takers, you should try to identify the one who you can actually maybe get some sort of actual negotiation with and empower them. explain that. well, you find a person whose position is closest to yours or may possibly be the most reasonable then you make a small concession. small concessions to try to get big gains in return for your
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absolutely right. i would like to see washington deal with that debt but this is not the way to do it. not the context. don t do it on the edge of catacly cataclysm. how do you do it? negotiate budgets in a normal way, not one chamber refuse to go to conference or write a budget for years. congressman grimm, good to have you on again. when we come back, words about the government shutdown. one word we re hearing a lot is hostage. americans take care of business. they always have. they always will. that s why you take charge of your future. your retirement.