Is very necessary solidarity. This and more im joined by my guest to me bob its in moscow he is a political analyst and editor of you know just me internet project and in court we have Geoffrey Robertson he is americas professor of history at University College cork and a member of the Royal Irish Academy his latest book is churchill and stalin comrades in arms during the 2nd world war right gentlemen crossed out roles in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want the house appreciate it or i let me 1st go to a demon here in moscow you know dma here we go again this is almost like our tradition with our calling jeffrey we do this every single year commemorating victory in europe over fascism and for every single year that we do it we find ourselves more and more in a revisionist mode here i mean as i understand as were sitting down doing our chat right now is that facebook has banned a colorized version of the of the soviet banner over europe and the very very iconic one of sho
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