political arena. that s where all of trump s defenses seemed to be designed to really plan to really nail, because the legal analysis of what they re contending seems mary s word, pretty meh. i m not going to play it. he said on fox. accusing president two things. number one some kind of effort to obstruct the january 6th count. just a mob descending on the capitol and the only thin pause in counting so seven contestant states could reaudit or recertify. never heard of anyone getting indicted for asking for an audit. trump was looking for the truth to find out exactly what happened in those seven contested states. that scriminal. his own people said about known falsity and known illegality of the eastman this is pat
agitation on earth, too, in sort of right-wing political media circles already. andrew stick around. mary mccord thank you for starting us off on a day like today. we re really grateful. much more on today s news from washington and what we know about the january 6th investigation. reaction from two former members of congress is next, plus, of all trump s criminal indictment this could be the notice his extremist base. who he ma promised rett trat trat retribution for and to. all this after a quick break. don t go anywhere today. t go a. my active psoriatic arthritis can make me feel like i m losing my rhythm. with skyrizi to treat my skin and joints, i m getting into my groove.
already, which, we mentioned yet, still meeting right now at this very moment. just outside that d.c. courthouse where they are meeting members of the u.s. marshals responded meeting with other law enforcement officials outside of the federal courthouse. a looming third indictment of the ex-president for hisettes to overturn the 2020 election is where we begin today. joining us, former justice prosecutor, former senior member of robert mueller s special counsel investigation andrew weissmann and former general for national security mary mccord is here. you have both walked in jack smith s shoes. we can t talk to him. he s busy. but i wonder, andrew weissmann, with your muscle memory what these junctures are like in an investigation into an ex-president and people close to him, what is your best guess what s happening right now? the thing we definitely know
happens on the last day, teed up everything, something you re pretty sure you know that there will be what s called a true deal. and if that is what jack smith has done he s not really anticipating some problem today. so, mary, i wonder if you can take us inside what these days are like? and i just want to i think we all think we ve heard all this before, and even through mar-a-lago we lived through some of this before. a target letter has been sent. trump acknowledged receipt being a target letter. trump also acknowledged the three crimes mentioned to be under scrutiny. we don t know if that s ultimately what he ll be charged with or more or less. there is also no dispute that a meeting happened today between jack smith s office and the lawyers. again, that was one of the last things that happened before jump was indicted by jack smith and his office for his role in the mishandling of classified
so you may just see if there is an indictment today or whether next week, that it s simply handed up to the magistrate judge and not under seal. just something the government then is able to have a press release or a press conference and make it public, and to mary s point, then the government is both doing what i think the law requires which would be not seeking something under seal when there s no risk of flight or security but also control the narrative. because they re the ones putting out the story. it s so interesting that what we see in cover as part of the trump circus also has ramifications in the legal arena where the stakes are even higher. i want to ask you, mary, what other reason the marshals would have been meeting with law enforcement? obviously, whether today ar next week planning goes into it, but