and throughout these years, we ve done it. there has not been a shot fired by a police officer here in teaneck in the last 32 years. i think they re using more restraint when they deal with these sort of situations. william: the community continues to evolve. the police evolve and you have to evolve together. walter: the community policing experiment was a valiant effort, but it doesn t get to the core of the problem. the problem is the culture of policing. the fact that police operate like a clique and will do everything possible to be held irresp. not responsible for their actions. the question becomes when will civilians hold them accountable? natacha: maybe the police have learned a lot from my brother s death, but has teaneck? they still won t honor my brother. they just said, no, we re not going to have phillip pannell s name on, on the mural. and why? if you want this mural and you re going
think that we re trying to brush it under the rug. but there s the delay is trying to work with the elected officials. everybody here has a different concern. and the issue is how do we get consensus? natacha: five other communities have put up blm murals. we re asking that you give us a deadline. thelma: this is still upsetting me after 30 years ago. and it shouldn t be that i have to go through this pain again, over and over again. elie: you know, ms. pannell, i feel your pain. actually, i don t feel your pain. i don t know how it d be to lose a child. and, and, and i can only imagine the horror you ve lived through over the last, uh, what is it? 30 years now. i certainly, you know, certainly don t understand how it is to lose a sibling either as i speak to your daughter as well. but i will not support a mural that has phillip pannell s name on it anywhere. if you re asking me for my vote,
we got it? natacha: that s the mayor and the deputy mayor. he refused to hold my brother s picture. mom, what s wrong? you re crying? how dare him to make you cry, ma? thelma: well, he had the nerve to say that? natacha: he doesn t care. (music) female: it really amazes me that it took months of hard work, negotiation and compromise to get the words black lives matter painted in the town of teaneck, new jersey. the town that s made up of almost 30% black people. the town that was the first to voluntarily integrate schools in this country, the same town that mourns and never forgets the life of phillip pannell, back in 1990. phillip pannell s name was denied approval to be painted on this mural, but his life matters. while his name is not physically on here, let s have this mural be a representation
in our hearts and minds of his legacy and that every single black brother and sister whose lives have been stolen had a legacy, too. (music) natacha: i was angry because all these years later, teaneck has still never acknowledged my brother. but then some of the young people that were on that blm mural committee, along with the superintendent and the board of education, said, no, you know, we re going to do a second mural and we re going to make sure that phillip pannell s name is on there. and we re also going to acknowledge other names and put them all on there. i was like, okay, finally, teaneck is going to do something in honor of my brother. (music) peaceful state. full plate. wait, are you my blind date? dancing crew. trip for two. nail the final interview. buy or lease? masterpiece.
none of us want that. but the every day possibility is there. it ll never go away. my shooting will never go away. it s with me every day of my life. natacha: okay, listen. i feel like he didn t have to do what he did, and i ll always feel that way. i can never wrap my mind around the fact that someone fears for their lives, chasing after someone and shooting at someone that has never shot at them, has never threatened them physically, you know. i try to understand why it happened, but i don t understand why it happened. i forgave him a long time ago. not for his sake. i forgave him for my sake because i could no longer harbor that that hate. and the fact that clint wouldn t want me to hate him. you know, he he wouldn t have wanted me to hate him.