i do want to talk about the announcement by president z zelensky, that the control collapse is looking at the collapse of the dam. what can you share about this and what evidence do you have that shows russia was behind the collapse of this dam? absolutely. this is an awful crime. it was manually organized by russians. we don t have a video of how russian officer is saying hello, i m blowing up the dam. what do we know? the explosion was from inside the dam, not outside. there was seismic activity at 2:00 a.m. and no shelling at this time. russians are saying there was
z zelensky there was that pull aside conversation made and pence didn t know about that, it s an interesting argument pence s folks try to make. because it suggests how much did the vice president know if he was in the room with this guy yeah, i think there s down sides to be donald trump s vice president. i mean, i doubt there are many things happening without them getting approval from the president. i mean, what we ve seen is this all comes back to the president. this is not about the vice president. it s not about giuliani. i ve heard a lot of stories about all the people surrounding him. i think ultimately it falls back on president trump and what he has directed the people to do around him, which is to violate the constitution, to seek foreign interference, to help his re-election campaign, and again for me it was a clear national security issue. you re an american citizen. i became an american citizen, yes. you have an amazing american
trip to zelensky s inauguration. there was some debate within the vice president s office about exactly the chain of command and how it went through. i have no idea what s in that supplemental testimony. that s really interesting. who gets to declassify something like that? the executive, the president. the entire system is built for the president, and so the president can delegate to other officials the ability to classify or declassify. but in the end it s his call. and by the way with all the concern republicans expressed about the depositions being secret and not transparent, now in part you see why. there s classified information there. what do you think the vp s role is here? i think that has been one of the biggest questions hanging over all of this. the vice president s office has tried very consistently to distance himself saying he didn t know anything about this. the case where it was actually after his meeting in warsaw with
moving ahead to 2020. then once there s an investigation, he obstructs the investigation. so there s a pattern of conduct here that i think we very well may look into, and we were exploring some of that with our constitutional experts yesterday. well, i want to ask you to give some advice to the congresswoman particularly along this line. water was a word used because of the break in of the democratic national headquarters, but there was so much more to it than that. in this case do you narrow it down to one focus, the zelensky july 25th conversation or you broaden it or just focus on one issue but say well, we re really talking about a lot of other stuff? well, i think we should keep it really focused on the abuse of power, bribery and abuse of power in terms of soliciting a fake investigation of biden. but you also have this cover-up, and i just wrote an article for the washington post about this. i think in the article about where the president is covering up, refusing to coop