The latest Political Developments of the day and interviews with top newsmakers are featured. Hes an msnbc and msnbc National Affairs analyst. Im like madonna at this point. I gave you one name. Some day youll thank me. Well talk about that later. Daily beast politics editor sam stein is here and my friend steve schmidt. Were going to boil you down to one name, too. Take us through the significance of this sort of i think its just a side show. People have told me that from emmet flood to don mcgahn to Rudy Giuliani to everyone who is now departed the president s team, no one thinks the president can survive an interview with the special counsel. The president cant survive twitter. Thats right, special counsel is now looking at his tweets. Every tweet has a misstatement or a lie, so theyre absolutely right to be concerned that if the president were to go into an interview with incredibly well prepared prosecutors who have not just the president s tweets and his own statements, as Rudy G
clarity on this issue i think before a lot of the rest of us did. and this does feel like a crisis now. in does feel like a splitting point that has grown out of whatever is wrong in republican politics and in the politics that have arisen around the former president. and today with the call, even after the results of this audit showed that trump lost worse nan he thought, the call that this necessarily means the election results should be thrown out and trump declared the winner it feels like a breaking point, a full on separation between election results and facts in a way that feels irrevocable and that feels unmooring and alarming to me wab as hilarious as i find it in the short run but i found myself wantsing to take to steve about this precarious moment. i asked him to be here tonight. thank you for maepg time my friend. i appreciate it. great to be with you, rachel. thank you. i wanted you to be here tonight, steve, because i feel
hilarious. and infuriating. but it s corrosive in a way we need to talk about too. we re speaking tonight this hour live with the arizona secretary of state with the actual state official in arizona in charge of administering elections in that state. her reaction to what happened with this republican audit of the election results was stinging and you should hear it and from her. we will talk with her. we re speaking tonight with the top county official in a large county in texas, trump yesterday demanded that texas, texas should have its election results forensically audited as well. texas officials today ordered that that will happen in the four largest counties in the state. we ll speak with the top county official in one of the counties to get her stinging response to that attack on the integrity of elections there. but before we talk with either of the officials i asked to be here tonight my friend steve schmidt. who is not directly involved in these matters not an elected official
that are attacking them are responsible for creating in the first place. yeah we re in a dangerous moment, rachel in the country and it s going to get worse. and, steve, when you talk about danger, as you describe it, increasing radicalization the thing that stuck with me today about mr. kagan s piece, is his critique of the underestimating of this as a threat, the understilting of the power of in authoritarian movement. and the consequence of underestimating which is apiecement. what it has me wondering is what is the opposite of underestimating it? what is the op opposite of apiecement? what are the options that are available if we decide to confront this as a country and do not take this to not play this down, to recognize the threat here and the historical echos you describe here in a way that is bone chilling? what does that look like? what is the opposite of
often controlled by self interested, corrupt minority. so this is the most profound moral issue that you could possibly talk about on any given evening in this country. because it goes to the heart of the american idea, the embrace of humanism, of natural rights, of pluralism and this idea that anybody can be an american, that we can all stand equal, co-equally in a society under the rule of law where we all get a say and get to participate. and that is what is being vandalized and attacked and successfully so. they are on the march. they are ascendant. they ve raised more money than the democrats. republicans have tremendous advantages heading into this next midterm election. so we are indeed, as you have pointed out at a very frightening moment. steve schmidt, political