i agree. i think, for example, maybe it was that president obama was naive. he said he would negotiate with iran without preconditions. he said that early i don t know. yet he did make that tough decision i thought it was a little ill-conceived. i thought he would have known sharia law would emerge two days after they got gaddafi but they got gaddafi. they said it was democracy in the arab spring but i don t think it is yet. not yet, but it is at least the absence of an author authoritarian. but the muslim brothers said at the time prepare for war with israel. and mumbarak, as bad as he was, had peace. but it s not stable. so the idea that somehow you have a choice to stay with mumbarak once his people are in the streets, it s not there. so now you have to move on. i m with you. i think it s going to be a very
bill: do you want one. no. i think they ought to do the other things and be prepared to do that and see what. bill: not do it yet? yes. bill: there some urgency to it. iran is emerging as a power in the region. mumbarak is out. a lot of the dictators have fallen and iran loves this, am i correct there? this is good for iran? i think that s correct. in the long run, it may not be. bill: okay, but right now iran is empowered by all of these guys going down they have their eye on iraq, iran does. wait a minute, iran has a population that isn t terribly happy with the ayatollahs. no but they are a police state that can really tamp them down. that s true in a lot of those countries where they are not getting tamped down. bill: not as effective as this. there was a rest revolution in iran and it hand ended up in a few ayatollahs and they are
bill: do you want one. no. i think they ought to do the other things and be prepared to do that and see what. bill: not do it yet? yes. bill: there some urgency to it. iran is emerging as a power in the region. mumbarak is out. a lot of the dictators have fallen and iran loves this, am i correct there? this is good for iran? i think that s correct. in the long run, it may not be. bill: okay, but right now iran is empowered by all of these guys going down they have their eye on iraq, iran does. wait a minute, iran has a population that isn t terribly happy with the ayatollahs. no but they are a police state that can really tamp them down. that s true in a lot of those countries where they are not getting tamped down. bill: not as effective as this. there was a rest revolution in iran and it hand ended up in a few ayatollahs and they are
we heard that from mom as mumbarak as well. said that plan a, plan b, and plan c were all to live, fight, and die in libya. i would take them at their word this also means if he wanted to negotiate a way out entry for compound of deposed villas and dictators in rehad in saudi arabia, i don t think he could go there now because if you have war crimes trials in front of you, i don t think moammar qaddafi wants to wind up like serbia s my lois so he very much. he wants to fight or negotiate his way out. shannon: now that president obama has stepped up yesterday and said it is time for him to step down be to walk away any more violence, does that lend
and so, you know, there are excellent reasons. we clearly have jurisdiction. the international argue. is straightforward, too. that is that this person has committed terrible crimes. they are clearly terrorist acts. there are crimes against humanity. and, therefore, he can be prosecuted anywhere under the universalist principle. bill: i got it here is the rub. qaddafi knows qaddafi isn t like mumbarak. nobody is going to bother mumbarak, i don t think. mumbarak is down some place. he has got his money stashed somewhere. the world will probably forget him like he had did e.d. emean. he is probably going to hang on in libya as long as he can hundreds of more people maybe thousands will die because he knows he has got nowhere to go. that s a pretty good argument for international team for going to in and grabbing them. going in and getting him right now. there is a precedent in this case. let s be clear megrahi was