is just declare victory, right? he is going to declare victory. but that doesn t mean he s a winner. he s just going to say he s the winner. on the eve of his trial, new audio of steve bannon, laying out trump s 2020 plans. plus, as the senate tries to trump proof american democracy, will it be enough? we re gonna get insight on that, one of in starts right now. good evening from new york. i am alicia menendez, in for chris hayes. and we have some major new developments tonight in the ongoing investigation into the insurrection on january 6th. the wall street journal reports that members of the house january 6th committee are considering seeking interviews with both mike pence and donald trump. congressman adam kinzinger, one of two republicans on the committee, says that they may request a written interview with the former vice president, or they could issue a subpoena to try to compel him to testify. the committee is still weighing whether it will ask trump to tes
winner. he s just going to say he s the winner. on the eve of his trial, new audio of steve bannon, laying out trump s 2020 plans. plus, as the senate tries to trump proof american democracy, will it be enough? we re gonna get insight on that, when all in starts right now. good evening from new york. i am alicia menendez in for chris hayes. and we have some major new developments tonight in the ongoing investigation into the insurrection on january 6th. the wall street journal reports that members of the house january 6th committee are considering seeking interviews with both mike pence and donald trump. congressman adam kinzinger, one of two republicans on the committee, says that they may request a written interview with the former vice president, or they could issue a subpoena to try to compel him to testify. the committee is still weighing whether it will ask trump to testify. congressman kinzinger, quote, expects the committee to likely decide to make a crimina
work just as any other subpoena to any other witness would work, and whether it s written testimony, or it s recorded testimony, that s up to the committee. and mister pence and his attorneys. but certainly some danya, when you say written testimony, can you walk us through how that is? how is that different from the depositions were used to seeing at the hearings? sure, it s just a another form, it s a provision of a written question, written questions and written answers, i believe, former president trump did that in connection with some of the mueller proceedings. it has done less typically than a recorded and or oral deposition. and it is just something to be negotiated between the car-t s. so we haven t seen many of them, or at least we re not aware of any of them. but it may be that for, you know, that it s more palatable to the former president, to provide testimony in that form.
to any other witness would work, and whether it s written testimony, or it s recorded testimony, that s up to the committee. and mister pence and his attorneys. but certainly danya, when you say written testimony, can you walk us through how that is? how is that different from the depositions we re used to seeing at the hearings? sure, it s just a another form, it s a provision of a written question, written questions and written answers. i believe former president trump did that in connection with some of the mueller proceedings. it is done less typically than a recorded and or oral deposition. and it is just something to be negotiated between the car-t s. so we haven t seen many of them, or at least we re not aware of any of them. but it may be that for, you know, that it s more palatable
going forward, there are certain kinds of republicans that i think are kind of just true believers. you ve got your marjorie taylor greenes, madison kau thorns. and they be you have weasels who lie. i m going play a clip about this particular individual and the role he might play after i play it. you got a bunch of people on that committee that tried to frame a sitting president of the united states, and i m going to trust them? i have a tape of every deposition i ve ever taken with very, very honest lawyers. i m sorry. i m not dealing with very honest people. kurt, are any of these people we re dealing with honest people? your thoughts. that s a trick question, right, jason? no, of course they re not. they re known serial liars. and i ll tell you, one of the things that s going to be very unique about these proceedings, even from the mueller