value going overseas, going to ukraine, the president getting on a phone call with the president of ukraine trying to get dirt on joe biden. that s why rudy giuliani i think is on the hook for conpierce to defraud the united states. the third charge they put in this mock indictment, and it s a mock indictment. and it s a good read. it s a great read. the third charge is conspiracy to commit bribery based on trump withholding congressionally appropriated funds. virtually he s kinds of willing to walk over the body of dead ukrainians to get what he wants, which is unfair advantage in the election. he s holding that money hostage. i don t know why congress isn t more upset about that, because they re the ones who have the right to spend that money. the president doesn t get to now rein that money in and use it for his political advantage, put that s what he was doing. those are the three charges they lay out. but i ll tell you, based on what we ve seen reportsed, all three
catch our investigative breath. so i agree with richard painter, i think congress needs to move out on the abuse and frankly the crime that we ve already seen in the summary of the phone call that president trump had with president zelensky. it s all right there. it s an abuse of power. holding money hostage that was designed to go to ukraine to help them defend themselves against russian aggression in exchange for dirt on his political opponent. that s an impeachable offense. self-contained, done. i do think congress needs to move out on that because if we now move to what he said about china and what he said about now he s throwing rick perry under the bus, which i find amusing because it goes from perfect phone call with zelensky, beautiful phone call, but if anything is wrong with it it s rick perry s fault.
happened between the diplomats bill taylor and sond land who we mentioned earlier. are we saying security assistance in a meeting are conditioned on investigations. sondland says call me. we ve gone over it a bunch and later says they should no longer text. what does this say to you legally? so, it says to me that these folks, some have criminal exposure, the ones involved in the scheme to trade something for value in exchange for ukrainian security funds. face it, congress doesn t willy-nilly appropriate funds to foreign countries just out of the goodness of their hearts. they do it because it s in the interest of the united states to do it. yet, the president holds that money hostage and when president zelensky says we re about ready to buy more javelin missiles from you and the president says i have a favor, though, it
protect themselves against aggressi aggression. the u.s. holds that money hostage and they say you want to defend yourself? i have a favor to ask though. that is really what we need to remain focused like a laser beam on if that is not an abuse of power then i don t know what is. let s talk about bill barr is. mere mortals, one would think that bill barr globe trotting does not seem like the job function of the attorney general. it seems like, i don t know, someone from trump s 2020
much more complicated acts of journalism than now. the background of a tweet from connecticut democratic senator chris murphy said a few weeks ago in ukraine, i met with the president and discussed the surprise cut off of aid and the inappropriate demands the trump campaign was making of him. the obvious question everyone in kiev was asking was were the two things connected? carol, remind our audience when this aid is we keep mentioning. the congress, the u.s. congress had approved $250 million in military style aid for the ukraine government to protect itself from largely what they use it for is to protect themself from russian aggression. the president held that money hostage, blocking it from being