value going overseas, going to ukraine, the president getting on a phone call with the president of ukraine trying to get dirt on joe biden. >> that's why rudy giuliani i think is on the hook for conpierce to defraud the united states. the third charge they put in this mock indictment, and it's a mock indictment. >> and it's a good read. >> it's a great read. the third charge is conspiracy to commit bribery based on trump withholding congressionally appropriated funds. virtually he's kinds of willing to walk over the body of dead ukrainians to get what he wants, which is unfair advantage in the election. he's holding that money hostage. i don't know why congress isn't more upset about that, because they're the ones who have the right to spend that money. the president doesn't get to now rein that money in and use it for his political advantage, put that's what he was doing. those are the three charges they lay out. but i'll tell you, based on what we've seen reportsed, all three