heard he doesn t think they re doing anything wrong. the stunning details of an out of president, who wanted to join the mob. the president said something to the effect of, i am that i think president, take me up to the capitol now. the president reached up towards the front of the vehicle to grab at the steering wheel. mr. engel grabbed his arm, and said, sir, you need to take your hand off the steering wheel. we are going back to the west wing. we re not going to the capitol. the president of the united states is chief of staff, his closest advisers, preparing for the violence, and then, trying to save themselves. i recall hearing the word, oath keepers. and hearing the word, proud boys, closer to the plan of the january 6th rally, with mr. giuliani s. white house chief of staff mark meadows, did he ever indicate that he was interested in receiving a presidential pardon related to january 6th? yes, ma am. tonight, one of the members of the january 6th investig
i think, i didn t care that they have weapons. they re not here to hurt me. i remember him saying to the effect of, mark needs to do something more, literally calling the vice president and mark responded something to the effect of, you heard, he doesn t think they re doing anything wrong. the stunning details of an out of touch president, who wanted to join the mob. the president said something to the effect of, i am the effing think president, take me up to the capitol now. the president reached up towards the front of the vehicle to grab at the steering wheel. mr. engel grabbed his arm, and said, sir, you need to take your hand off the steering wheel. we are going back to the west wing. we re not going to the capitol. the president of the united states, his chief of staff, his closest advisers, preparing for the violence, and then, trying to save themselves. i recall hearing the word, oath keepers. and hearing the word, proud boys, closer to the plan of the janua
that s it. and mike pence, next door to mark meadows office having no idea that he s being set on essentially to be either forced, bludgeoned, if trump had gotten into that room, can you imagine him getting into the house of representatives, what would mike pence have done? could have made the same decision that he ultimately made, facing trump and a mob? i think, you know, trump thought he could, and that he was getting used as a mob item. but here s the thing that i don t get still is meadows. okay, let s just talk about matters for a second because the picture of meadows is very consistent throughout, and it s been in some ways consistent throughout the hearings. there is roughly some caps you know about. there is the pro coup people. we know that giuliani, we know that peter giuliani, banning all those folks. representative frequent host. yeah, peter navarro. you know, we know who the pro coup people are, we know with anti coup people are. there s cipollone in the white h
mark meadows office having no idea that he s being set on essentially to be either forced, bludgeoned, if trump had gotten into that room, can you imagine him getting into the house of representatives, what would mike pence have done? could have made the same decision that he ultimately made, facing trump and a mob? i think, you know, trump thought he could, and that he was getting used as a mob item. but here s the thing that i don t get still is meadows. okay, let s just talk about matters for a second because the picture of meadows is very consistent throughout, and it s been in some ways consistent throughout the hearings. there is roughly some caps you know about. there is the pro coup people. we know that giuliani, we know that peter giuliani, banning all those folks. representative frequent host. yeah, peter navarro. you know, we know who the pro coup people are, we know with anti coup people are. there s cipollone in the white house counsel s office and the folks that d