addition to the msnbc family, who are very excited to have back here with us. alex wagner! yay. who is joining us this hour. great to have you here, alex. >> i'm excited to be here on the circumstances. >> i think it seems perfect! >> it's about right, isn't it? >> i mean, jump in, this december 18th meeting, we knew it happened. we have descriptions of a, particularly an open source reporting before. but now, we get all these accounts of people who could hear the screaming. and who are trying to contain it. it's just astonishing. >> i mean, couple of things that stood out to me. one, the idea that white house counsel is running into the oval, saying how did you guys get in here, right? apparently, it's very easy to waltz in the oval office, right? this collection of ragtag con artists somehow is admitted, like, the inner circle of power, in the united states gets the