What we do have and what ill be presenting this afternoon is a good deal, a very robust qualitative information that speaks to the phenomenology, the experience of having been mobbed. What the elements and aspects of that experience are like and what the health harming effects of that are so this talk, just dont worry is the only reason i say it is going to shift a little bit from the Empirical Data to looking more at theconceptual and phenomenological framework. These are the books that kate mentioned that my colleague doctor lindner and im wrote in 2012, 2014 about mobbing and in so doing we extended the work of heinz lannon in sweden, the psychologist who studied road and worked with targets in the 80s and also i think i would like to just credit the work of doctor ken west you in canada whose work on mobbing focused primarily on higher educational mobbing in higher ed and also i would like to include doctors ruth and gary namely, the founders and directors of the Workplace Bullying