we expect additional information in the coming moments. we re watching live the criminal docket. it s unclear what exactly that will look like, if the former president will face additional charges. but as we wait for this additional information, we expect to accu-come in any minu let s talk about who carlos is. as evan and others have noted, he is a maintenance worker down at mar-a-lago, and he s become really a central player in trying to put together exactly what happened to these classified documents. he has been seen on surveillance footage by investigators helping walt nauta, the co-defendant there, one of trump s close ever aides, move boxes that allegedly contain classified materials. he also, according to our reporting, took photos of the location of the surveillance cameras, and that s really significant because the surveillance footage has become a big issue, a big question for investigators. we know that several witnesses have been asked whether investigators have actually b
all these conversations among the people who worked for donald trump and who were just trying to please the boss as he is called. and the level of detail is amazing if you read this approximately 60-page document. the specifics in here are incredible. yeah, and one of those specifics we re seeing a reoccurring character now. besides the people who are named the former president, walt nauta, carlos, those employees 1 through 5, but also someone referred to as a pack representative. these are representatives from trump s political action committee. in the first indictment this person was also referenced one of the more damning events in that indictment alleging that the former president showed this representative a classified map. and when we first got that indictment someone very close to the former president told me that s incredibly problematic because it suggests someone close to him, someone in his orbit, someone whose career depends on him may have given potentially incriminati
expecting. they have also been talking to other advisers, others lawyers about if there s any other shoes to drop here. but they did learn about this today, essentially at the same time all of us did. they were trying to figure out exactly what was going to happen today. they were on pins and needles trying to read these tea leaves. now they have learned that it is carlos. carlos is somebody who again is represented by a lawyer that is paid for by trump s tickets, they have been watching carefully trying to take care of essentially. weather it comes to legal matters. trying to find out what they feel about all this, reaching touts several advisers, lawyers here trying to get a sense of exactly they think this means for the former president s case, as well. carlos, a maintenance worker down there at mar-a-lago. i know that paula reid is getting new information, as well. what else are you learning? reporter: we learned that this is not just going to be adding a third name to this cri
cover of employee number, et cetera. because part of what is being alleged here is that these three defendants, now donald trump, walt nauta, and carlos de la vera acted in a way to try to persuade an additional employee to act. talking about trump employee number four to delete that as part ofconsciousness of guilt. those are the potentially so-called witnesses who could give the testimony and credibility. no case of this magnitude would hinge on one particular witness or one statement because the risk is always they could essentially either recant, they could have some credibility issue where they could be undermined by a savvy cross examiner to suggest that this is not the person to assign all the credence to and credibility, so there has to be more corroboration. and one of the questions that s looming here is you ve end endeavored to have this footage deleted. was it indeed? was there a moment where jack smith or counsel have been able to view the different footage
kept that footage. he was telling him essentially that he did not know how to do that. he didn t believe he had the right to do that. that s what this employee told carlos, the new co-defendant, that he would have to reach out to another employee to figure out how to do that. carlos repeated again, it says he jiinsisted the boss wanted t server deleted and asked what are we going to do. that is clearly what they are getting at here. we knew that there was an intent interest in the security footage here, wolf, because the way this worked where the subpoenas that they got didn t go straight to mar-a-lago, they went to the trump organization. and that was how they sent those subpoenas asking for the security camera footage. we were told they had asked for it multiple times. so clearly they re looking at these text that s are happening between carlos and walt nauta, and he s saying, carlos is saying the boss wants the footage on the server deleted. you think about how you would lay out y