to account. all of that while lula faces a mountain of economic, social and political challenges. my guest is celso amorim, former foreign minister, now lula s foreign policy advisor. is brazil becoming ungovernable? celso amorim in brasilia, welcome to hardtalk. thank you, stephen. mramorim, i believe you are talking to me from your office in the presidential palace. just a few days ago, that building was invaded by a mob. how safe and secure do you feel right now? 0h, personally, i feel very safe now. i don t think anything will happen these days or the next days. but of course, that was a very worrying situation, to say the least. not very much unlike what happened in the capitol hill two years ago. we didn t expect, of course, that to happen, but certainly there were failures in the security apparatus. part of it was omission, part might be incompetence, but part might have been connivance. but when you came in to work today and you showed your security pass and i dare sa
ahead of more action planned on thursday. they re calling for fresh elections. now on bbc news, it s hardtalk. welcome to hardtalk. i m stephen sackur. brazilian democracy was shaken to its foundations earlier this month, but it is still standing. now, president lula has to try to fix the cracks. his government must figure out whether another assault on government institutions is likely, and hold those responsible for what looked like a half baked coup attempt to account. all of that while lula faces a mountain of economic, social and political challenges. my guest is celso amorim, former foreign minister, now lula s foreign policy adviser. is brazil becoming ungovernable? celso amorim in brasilia, welcome to hardtalk. thank you, stephen. mramorim, i believe you are talking to me from your office in the presidential palace. just a few days ago, that building was invaded by a mob. how safe and secure do you feel right now? 0h, personally, i feel very safe now. i don t think an
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of the more vivid and more, let us say, normal parts of the country. but there are, of course, first people who have interest in having totally legal activities like the gold mining, like the destruction of the amazon, like.all kinds of illegal things or semi illegal things which they want totally deregulated. and there is a lot of mind manipulation as well, all over. i don t want to be. but. but with respect with respect, mr amorim, you, in that answer, implying to me that people who support bolsonaro are somehow abnormal, that that they re not normal, that they re being manipulated. i mean, all these phrases you re using suggest to me that brazil has got a fundamental problem, because both sides are almost literally dehumanising the other. and that is a very toxic political environment. no. i m sorry.