lost his own prove mike lindel wrong election fraud challenge when you make of all thi happening at once? that was an amazing sel own. $5 million it is got to pay does he love trump that much that s gonna keep standing by? him he put out th challenge. so, it is interesting to see this happening because it is not just mike lindell, it is a fox news these people who have long faced no consequences fo repeating and parroting things that donald trump said that ar not true i do not know if mike lindel actually thinks this stuff i true or not, but he was willin to say it. once you start seeing financia impact, i will be curious to see whether or not peopl really want to start taking million dollar hits for 787. million dollar hits. exactly. and so to your point or in the break, i am not certain why man who sells pillows for living have so much money to spend, but at the same tim this is one challenge that h lost he is also being sued by
i want to talk about trump and his human shields and if the are starting to weigh him. trump s legal part are onl part of this his allies are under scrutiny. we just learned to day tha mike lindell is being forced t fork over $5 million after h lost his own prove mike lindel wrong election fraud challenge when you make of all thi happening at once? that was an amazing sel own. $5 million it is got to pay does he love trump that much that s gonna keep standing by? him he put out th challenge. so, it is interesting to see this happening because it is not just mike lindell, it is a fox news these people who have long faced no consequences fo repeating and parroting things that donald trump said that ar not true i do not know if mike lindel actually thinks this stuff i true or not, but he was willin
the truth. they had to do withholding on to an audience even even if that cost them integrity and reputation as telling the truth to their own audience because they created a monster with their own audience that they were then terrified of. david, i m really struck by the fact that what rupert murdoch said in the deposition when deposed it s not blue, its not red, it s green. he was talking about why they kept allowing mike lindel to come on and spew the lies remains true. they still make a lot of money. and they still have good ratings. so does any of this change form? change fox? you hope it would. if you look across the history of fox this is interesting. people talk about losing will it ever be known as a news channel again as they lost their right to be called a news channel? fox never was the news channel. it was founded in 1996 by a
blame for gop losses in the last cycle not on trump, but on mcdaniel and the rnc. they re really, really eager for some change. and i provide that change and a vision of how we re going win in 2024. reporter: it s far from the classic establishment-anti-establishment divide that royaled the party in the early days of the trump era. now trump loyalists are fighting one another, even as others call for a new direction. while trump is at the center of it all, he has taken a back seat to the fight. i get along with both of them. i haven t taken a stance. let them fight it out. reporter: not florida governor ron desantis, a potential 2024 rival, who says the rnc is overdue for change. i think we need to get some new blood in the rnc. i like what harmeet dhillon has said about getting the rnc out of d.c. reporter: mypillow ceo mike lindel, a trump election denier and peddler of election con