value and do attract talent? that the pay question as far as help workers are concerned. there s the sheer quantity question do we have enough workers? is not specific to health workers because it does actually affect many other professions. that is what then connects to the broader migration problem. we re faced with basically ageing societies and declining societies demographically. politically, it s extremely difficult to pose those questions, to pose the migration demography and social professional. basically careers and professional life and the services that a country needs. that nexus is extremely difficult to pose. what we do is talk about migration only quote on quote when