michael cohen told me he was handling this that he got a home equity loan $130,000, but that s where the money came from that he said all this up meaning what? costello s point to the grand jury was and a lot of this has been now said by castello, which is how we know it is that michael cohen was the driver of this plot and that he was handling it for donald trump it it s meant to remove culpability from trump as he s being presented by prosecutors as the one who is pulling the levers in directing all of this. yes and apparently, pecker has information about communications directly with trump about these payments for the purposes of influencing the election in accordance sense that pecker was brought in after not at all those it was damage control, and it s worth reiterating that am i, which pecker worked for at the time, i entered into a nonprosecution agreement with federal prosecutors when they were investigating michael cohen for these payments as king david
responding and who is defending him? and who isn t they are putting out every potential 2024 gop contender and their defense of donald trump. they are monitoring all of the congressional house members. republicans seeing what they re saying about donald trump, and this is going to tyne you and of course, we re going to continue hearing from the former president himself after he released that lengthy statement . he has continued to lash out on social media, and we expect that to continue as well. but one thing to keep in mind here s interested. they re operating a lot of this in the dark. they learned about the indictment from media reports. they continue to learn about the timing the number of charges all of that from media reports their second here behind what they re seeing and reading. so there are operating a bit here in the dark, but they are trying to come up with a plan. to take control of the narrative as they move forward, which is something as we know it is very important to
michael cohen trump s way of dealing with these stories, but because the payment was made by ami and as far as we know, wasn t reimbursed by trump or his organization or by michael cohen. i m not sure how it in and of itself becomes a charge and i think the relevance of it will be to show donald trump s knowledge knowledge of what was happening. his knowledge that this was a pattern happened, at least twice was stormy daniels and karen macdougal and they have to tie donald trump. to not just those payments, but to the way they were booked. i can t stress that enough. it s not about the donald trump know the hush money was paid it did he know that the records the internal records were falsified . that is the crux of the question. and perhaps the macdougal facts can help with this is where this is where the case ran into trouble, at least as far as we re told from people who are watching it in the grand jury, which is when robert costello, a former law partner of rudy giuliani. was under
of justice against his critics. he s also the host of two podcasts. political beatdown is the first the other is called mia culpa. he s talking tonight with cnn anchors allison cameron and don lemon. ellison. don anderson. thank you very much we do want to bring in michael cohen. michael. thank you so much for being here with us. don and i obviously have a lot of questions for you. as do the american people have you back together? we appreciate you joining us. what a day. it is for you today. and so this took a lot of people by surprise, including the amount of charges against former president so this is expected to be a 34 count indictment. 34 felony charges. do you understand why so many? yes i understand. i can t go in and i can t discuss it. however 34 is a pretty significant number. it certainly goes well past the stormy daniels. hush money payments are some of these because you received multiple payments again. i can t go into any of the specifics of this case. it s just not righ
very biblical. if you think about it, and at the end of the day. yes i am the smaller guy. i am the david. but somehow or another goliath is on his back. michael thank you very much for your time. we really appreciate talking to you tonight to see you both incredible interview. thank you, michael. alright, let s go back to anderson. alison don. thanks very much. next our legal team weighs in on what you just heard and later to politicians and opposite sides of the aisle. and tonight s news, former new york republican congressman lee zeldin and current california democrat adam schiff. power e t trade s award winning trading app makes trading easier with its customizable options chain easy to use tools and paper trading to help sharpen your skills. you can stay on top of the market from wherever you are trade from morgan stanley power e trade s easy to use tools make complex trading less complicated. custom scans help you find new trading opportunities. tool helps you plan your trades an