budget bill go through a going to be that much greater than if they get, say, 2 or $2.5 trillion versus the political down sides of creating chaos in their caucus in the house and the senate and not letting president biden, you know, throw a clear victory symbol up and say he s moving his agenda forward. we are not that far from 2022 and election year. so, margaret, this is also a major test for house speaker pelosi if she s able to appease or bring together moderates and progressives and help them see exactly what david was saying. do you want to tank everything, you know, to stay in your corner or, you know, how do you measure what s going to be most beneficial for party or for policy? fred, i think that is the messaging challenge for speaker pelosi because the truth is there are some members of the house democratic caucus in the progressive wing who actually think that it would be the better thing for the democratic
messaging challenge, the fact that there are rising breakthrough infections in vaccinated people. because delta is so transmissible and it behaves differently than earlier strains. but they also still need to emphasize to people that vaccines are the most effective tool they have. they are still highly protective. you are at far, far greater risk of death or severe illness without the vaccines but they have to simultaneously acknowledge the individual risk to vaccinated people varies depending on a number of factors including age and whether they have compromised immune systems. there s a lot of data in the cdc report and in the report that you and your colleagues published tonight. one of the standouts is that delta variant breakthrough cases, people that have these breakthrough cases may be as transmissible, the virus may be as transmissible as unvaccinated cases. that seems to be new information. it is. and that was the key piece of information that supported their
than that crowd size. when you re looking at picture a versus picture b. right. because the the premise that they re advancing is what truth is, is what the leader says is true. right. and loyalty is believing the truth of the leader. regardless of what your eyes are clearly telling you or the facts of the matter. this president values loyalty over honesty. but, adrian, the democratic party has a messaging challenge now. this is unlike democratic party always has a messaging challenge. i would argue it s in the dna. but how do you i would argue you re not winning this one so far. well, you know, look. i i think it depends on, frankly, a lot of it depends on what the media wants to cover. i mean, democrats want to talk about the issues that matter to the american people. healthcare. jobs. economy. raising wages. but republicans are trying to continue to dissow chaos and discord because they want
agenda right now. look at that number with white working class americans, the president being underwater gives the democrats that opportunity but there s no coherence to the agenda. they have a policy challenge, a messaging challenge, a generational challenge in the democratic party. that is a a problem that they re not going to solve by hiring an agency to rebrand a pizza commercial to define their agenda. they need an agenda and they need a generation of new leaders. if you go back to 2006, you ll find paul krugman writing immigration and low-skilled workers threat en americans. now the democratic party is firmly, unilaterally, unquestionably on the side of bring us your huddled, tired
ju wrapping up. we heard him talk about the idea of a trump doctrine. and i wonder if some of this might be in response to the reporting that s been out there. we have a politico story as you might know about a big staff meeting where they all got together and they said international affairs would present a messaging challenge. because the president lacks a coherent foreign policy and went on to say there is no trump doctrine which is not what we heard frye sean spicer. right. the next one says how some long time trump aides, people who have been with the president since the campaign, were a little ticked off. they believe he has a strong policy of america first. it is something he repeated often on the campaign trail. although what that means in lightest military strike many syria last week. so sean spicer was asked about this. it seemed to be an aleutireferr