think it is going to be the case across the country. we have to train professionals and what is better than to have veterans in our schools give them a purpose, protect our teachers and our students. what about the type of program? should the counties and school boards follow that? yes. regular new york state, they have talked about how to invest in resource offices but also mental health officers. to take a program that is more comprehensive to see what s going on in the student population. also about social media monitoring. then overall, it takes resources. the social services, like what happened in florida? you can catch these children that fall in the cracks. social media as well as psychological aspects. i had a conversation yesterday with a former mob boss. he pled guilty to killing 19 people and he is outraged and
mentally ill people. kristen, thank you so much. it s great to have you on the program in the wake of our coverage of this story. when you see that tape, and granted you were not there, you re only privy to this tape, is there anything that stands out in your mind, either in defense of the officers or in defense of the victim? well, ashleigh, police respond every day, sometimes several times a day to individuals and families in crisis due to mental illness. too often we see these interactions end in tragedy like this. what we do in the madison police department is try to work very proactively on these issues, through our mental health officers, to reach out to people like jason and his mother prior to any crisis situation arising. so yesterday on the program, captain, we had a police trainer
figurehead of a force that is deeply committed to community engagement. we are among the first to have had neighborhood officers mental health officers liaisons in, oh so many contexts beyond conventional or traditional law enforcement. i think that when you have 455 people, we have bachelor s degrees, we come from all walks of life we re highly diverse. i just think that we re in a position poised to show the country that there s a different narrative that can be lived if only you commit to it. let me ask you a tough one. given how different it is there, how is it that a young man a friend could have called asking for help and a young man who is as far as we know at this point unarmed end up being shot by one of the officers? of course it s difficult because if at the outset of a call if that s all we know about it, then that of course portrays a sort of one-dimensional approach to the grand context of that call. we know that with more time and with the dci leading the
but didn t act. how do you stop something like that? you say well, you look at the signs of the people and what they re like before they do this. and kyung lah joins us from santa barbara, thank you for joining us. the responding officers did go by the book in this welfare check, correct? you are absolutely right about this, anderson, they didn t break rules or protocol. they did what they re supposed to do. but after these types of shootings happen there is a lot of a lot of reflection, where they say there needs to be more comprehensive approach not just by the police but family and friends and the community. or could mental health officers be with them as they try to assess somebody s mental health. all right, coming up. a great american journey, a woman who has been on that journey for 115 years.