testimony for house, ways means committee. good morning everybody friday, dana has the day off. jacui, welcome back to new york. jacqui: i am jacqui heinrich. veteran tax crimes investigator claiming cover up by the justice department using political interference. shaply saying he was so concerned the way federal prosecutors were handling this case he felt obligated to go pubic. when i saw the egregiousness no longer became a choice. it was something i don t want to do but have to do. jacqui: live at the justice department. david? reporter: gary shaply behind closed doors, members house side. shap ly has been with the irs 1 years as an investigator. he was essentially told the slow walk the investigation. he is still irs employee. we know via various sources that is the hunter biden tax investigation that began in 2018 coming up on half a decade. he joined the probe in 2020. he is going to meet with staff members if they are still in town before the holiday weekend. h
now present biden calls it a whacko notion. how many americans receive welfare, under tanif $500 a month, food stamps, $372. they can stay on if they look for work, 20 hours a work. conservatives say it is not so much to ask able bodies adults to meet the standard. americans say it is perfectly appropriate. so right now you have a stal stalemate. unable or unable to work. republicans say they want to drive more americans into the workforce, jacqui? jacqui: democrats put a red line on the medicaid portion.
of the law. that s one of the things that s so interesting about this book. i don t think a lot of people or i hadn t thought so much about them sort of trying to build coalitions in the supreme court. well, and also, you know, we had known of rumors of the chief maneuvering and changing at least one of his votes, but i also discovered that justices stephen breyer and elena kagan had changed their votes. they changed on the medicaid portion in part because they were worried that the chief was going to flip back the other way. oh, really? there was constant he has said he s only an umpire calling balls and strikes looking at things neutrally, but when you unpack this case, it s really a prime case study of the kind of considerations that go on. that s fascinating. that have to do with the atmosphere at the time, the court s institutional reputation, and perhaps the chief justice s reputation. lots of cross currents going on. it s not so black and white that it s just he
lose some of that coverage in the swells on the shoulder of the governor. absolutely. that s why have a governor like governor k-6 in ohio and nevada. very vocally being against the legislation. strictly because the effect on medicaid. they took the medicaid expansion. unless you see the medicaid portion of the bill changed their cutting the growth in medicaid, not necessarily cutting the medicaid spending but the growth in the spending. it will not be tied directly to the increase in medical costs. the state are saying will receive less money in the future that were supposed to, that will be a popular and we don t support that. we want to see something change on the medicaid front before we reconsider if are in favor of the bill. that medicaid expanded coverage is tripping up gop tonight. alan, thank you for joining us. thank you for having me on. eric: meanwhile, protesters
it s unstable, it can t be sustained, they need to fix it. it is viewed favorably by the number of republicans, is there ways to fix the aca without getting rid of it entirely. that is not the conversation that we re having right now, you think about obama care and there is two big parts for expanding health insurance. there is the medicaid portion. conservatives don t like it, they have their criticisms, but that part is working. then you have exchanges. . working in some states, not working in other states, good for some people, not so good for other people. they stabilize the parts that are not working. the people that find that premiums or deductibles are too