center, not just the black vote. he was definitely playing to population center. miami dade is another example where you look at the early vote, phillip lavine won in that early vote but gillum overtook aim and overtook graham in the state as well. what s your take? mel, my ep was in my ear. this is that burden of proofy sanders of being to the left of what s seen as a centrist party. i m slow on gillum. so much of his politics is personal. the guns, the stand your ground, the need for pop lichl. he s medicare for all. i don t know what the meat on the bones is on that, yet, though. what do you think it was? was it his posture or do you think it was the populism? i think it was a little bit of everything. populism didn t play well with african-american voters in the 2016 primary and obviously gillum did well there.
have been numerous cases where we had three to six years of no tests. that in and of itself is not a real metric of success. i think there s really a difference between what we see the administration saying of we re hoping to move forward, we re trying to put meat on the bones and the president who said that the issue is solved and doing a victory lap. secretary pompeo really does need to get north korea to publically and unequivocally commit to abandoning his nuclear arsenal as well as the missile and biochem programs. do you think that the chances are high or even remotely close to high that that is possible? well, i have been doing north korea for 25 years. we have seen eight previous failed agreements. many of us tend to be skeptical and cynical. we hope this time is different. i think having increased the pressure, particularly in the last two years, that s brought north korea to the table. we will see if it s gotten them
i mean, you spent a lot of time in conversations with bannon. does he have she got the sense that steve bannon felt he was above the president or could control the president? i don t think that he thought he was above or could control. what janice said, i thought was right, he had a kind of a paternal fondsness for trump, respected his political talents, but thought he needed guidance. bannon s role, he thought, was to be the architect of trump s campaign, and then his president den cy. to put meat on the bones and craft them into a governing agenda. that went haywire almost from day one. kushner, ivanka, other people in the west wing recognized that
trump, respected his political talent but thought he needed guidance and bannon s role, he thought, was essentially to be the architect of trump s campaign and then as presidency, to put meat on the bones and take trump s impulses and craft them into some kind of a governing agenda. now, that went haywire pretty much from day one, and one reason why bannon was so angry at jared kushner was because as soon as things went off the rails, kushner, ivanka, other people in the west wing recognized that bannon was responsible for a lot of this and tried to push him out, which frankly is a bit ironic because during the campaign, nobody was closer than jared and steve bannon. they were kind of an oscar and felix quality to them. thick as thooefs aieves, and falling out as soon as they got into the west wing. do you think bannon has made a huge mistake here, an exulted
they didn t get what they wanted. what do you think this means going forward for his campaign? i don t know that it has a deeper meeting. it was interesting the whole skit where they made fun of his entire platform. it raised an eyebrow. he had one line where he said, you didn t tell us how you were going to do that. if you ask, it s magic, it falls into place. which has been a criticism of him. he doesn t have meat on the bones or details of how he says he s going to get all these things done. you wonder if that s going to be fodder for someone who might want to attack him later on down the line. the onus is not on the cast of snl about how he s going to take care of it. ben carson, errol, let s put it this way. is it even a question as to whether or not when somebody s central narrative about how they became who they now are comes into question, that they have to answer those questions? well, one would hope so.