i mean, you spent a lot of time in conversations with bannon. does he have she got the sense that steve bannon felt he was above the president or could control the president? i don t think that he thought he was above or could control. what janice said, i thought was right, he had a kind of a paternal fondsness for trump, respected his political talents, but thought he needed guidance. bannon s role, he thought, was to be the architect of trump s campaign, and then his president den cy. to put meat on the bones and craft them into a governing agenda. that went haywire almost from day one. kushner, ivanka, other people in the west wing recognized that