believe it was possible for trump to have the actual document. meadows said he knew it would be problematic if trump had war plan documents in his possession, the sources said. in a statement to abc news, a trump spokesperson accusing the justice department without evidence of selectively leaking incomplete information to impact the 2024 election. there is a process that the white house goes through to declassify materials. i don t have any knowledge of any broad-based directive from the president but that doesn t mean it didn t occur. reporter: and linsey, former u.s. attorney preet bharara told abc news the information mark meadows has is, quote, pretty damaging but it s unlikely he s flipped on trump. that s because meadows was indicted last week alongside trump and that separate investigation into election interference in georgia. both have only until this friday to turn themselves in. thank you. linsey: president biden is hours from landing in maui nearly two weeks after t
emerge from that alliance from the ex-president and mark meadows. mark meadows told jack smith special investigators that he could not call trump ever ordering or even discussing declassifying broad sets of classified material before leaving the white house nor was he aware of any standing order from trump authorizing the automatic declassification of materials taken out of the oval office. that reporting according to sources close to the matter. so far mark meadows has remained very quiet about jack smith s classified docs investigation. we do know that mark meadows has testified before a federal grand jury and that happened earlier this year. abc s new reporting sheds light
issue because that rice city stale or rice street jail has a notorious history for being reviewed or investigated by the department of justice for some issues at the facility. so as you know, you have the former white house chief of staff mark meadows who s also charged in this who s trying to get the state case moved to the federal system. many suspect trump and his lawyers will attempt to do the same. do you expect that, and if so, how strong are his chances of him getting his case moved to the federal system? . they re going to argue as mark meadows has. this is my job. i was president of the united states of america. i was following my rules and obligations i had as president of the united states of america. the problem will be among other things is that s not completely accurate. in other words, yes, you might have been the president and you might have been doing certain
i would suspect all of him, frankly. but i think that mark meadows being interviewed before a grand jury, as we understand he was, is something that is of concern to him. i think that meadows knows more than almost anyone. we don t know exactly what meadows said, we don t know what he was asked, we don t know the extent of his involvement. and i think it s also important to note just because somebody corporates with an investigation doesn t mean cooperate in the way people think of it. but i think mark meadows is the person he is the most concerned about. they don t seem to have a good indication of what mark meadows has. it it seems it has been pretty quiet. there is a lot of guessing going on in that world of mark meadows. there s been a lot of suspicions about him for sometime. it s been months and months and months. i suspect that will continue as we move forward.
gone before the grand jury. a dam in ukraine is breached at a key point in the war with accusations flying about who did it and a retired fbi spy catcher, remember s the spy he caught, robert hanssen who sold secrets to moscow and died in prison yesterday. we begin with a previously unknown second grand jury in the documents case and word late today that former trump chief of staff mark meadows has, in fact, testified before a grand jury unclear which one. also unclear when he testified or which line of inquiry the special counsel is pursuing. the documents for january 6th or perhaps both and kaitlan collins is here. what have you learned? a lot of questions about this especially when it comes to the mark meadows investigation, of course, that s or the mark meadows testimony. we knew he was going to have to testify because they subpoenaed him, the trump team tried to fight it citing executive privilege. they lost that, so we knew it was going to happen. we just didn t know when,