extraordinary the lengths to which they are going. do you think it has to do with the 2020 election, the 2020 election or the classified documents? i think that s kind of the magic question right now, because i think there was a sense maybe several months ago that, you know, trumps undoing and the real target of geo date was going to be the classified documents. listen, they re two parallel investigations into biden and trump. they re separate. but i think that the momentum behind that may have shifted when it came to light that many former presidents and vice presidents had classified documents. i think there was a little bit of sense that there was a sleepiness on january 6, and this puts kind of new life into it that probably these seniormost person, other than third most senior after the president, the vice president, was also been subpoena now, mark meadows has, shows that the council is looking into january 6. and again, this is an extraordinary, historic moment that took place
he will likely snub the committee as steve bannon has, as navarro has, as mark meadows has. frank, i welcome you to weigh in on that, but also how the committee conduct secret service witnesses after reviewing thousands of their conversations, how significant is that, is that particular threat in this investigation? you know, nbc news has previously reported that the committee has gotten their hands on literally over 1 million communications from the entire secret service, no matter where you are assigned. if you communicated internally on january 5th or january 6th, the committee has your communication. what does that mean? it means there could be some real revelations, about not only what went on in the detail around the vice president and around the president, but also back at secret service headquarters, who knew what when? who was saying we are in over our heads, we need to pull out
at a crossroads where it had no choice but to get to him because only trump could speak to some lingering questions they had. there was immediately a sense that the subpoena may have more symbolic value. that being said, president trump former president trump, i should say, no surprise, maybe he ll come up with something, but if the past is any guide, the conduct of his political allies is any guide, he is going to likely snuff the committee, as steve bannon has, as peter navarro has, as mark meadows has. frank, i want you to weigh in on that, but i asked to ask you after reviewing thousands of their conversations. how significant is that particular threat in this investigation? nbc news has previously reported that the committee has got their hands on literally over 1 million communications
meadows was in concert communication with the wife of supreme court justice clarence thomas. did donald trump order mark meadows to call virginia thomas to try to interfere with the supreme court decision? did mark meadows a baseline order if he was given one? or did he defies such an order if he was given one? is this one of the many reasons why mark meadows has fought the subpoena to testify to the january 6th committee? why didn t we make more calls. about a supreme court decision! some of the most striking evidence in today s hearing was the video recorded by speaker nancy pelosi s daughter while the congressional leadership was gathered at fort mcnair, two miles from the capitol. we have got to get [inaudible] finish proceedings. there has to be some way we can
there, we want to bring in kash patel, the chief of staff for acting secretary of the defense department, chris miller. you are basically, this new information, kash, you were in the oval office on the 4th of january, two days before, you were there. you have told me, mark meadows has told me, chris miller has told me, and the president has told me, both you and chris went under oath before this committee, so you said this to the committee under threat of perjury, right? that is correct. in fact, you were offering these guard troops it almost now sounds like with john s new information that your department, the department of defense, was pretty much begging them to take the guard and they kept refusing, in spite of all of your efforts to reach out and convince them the threat was real.