the march at charlottesville, convinced his history and identity would be erased. he had no idea those lies would lead to the death of an innocent 32-year-old woman named heather heyer. and that her death would touch a nerve, not just in charlottesville, but around the world. my only story of transformation has caught me that dialogue can lead to understanding and acceptance. the opposite of what the white supremacists are pushing. that s why i want to speak with heather s mother, susan monroe, who s agreed to open her door to
now i have to convince him to return to charlottesville and confront the truth of what happened here. i ve always been excited for what s next. i m still going for my best. even though i live with a higher risk of stroke due to afib not caused by a heart valve problem. so if there s a better treatment than warfarin, i ll go for that. eliquis. eliquis is proven to reduce stroke risk better than warfarin. plus has significantly less major bleeding than warfarin. eliquis is fda-approved and has both. what s next? sharing my roots. don t stop taking eliquis unless your doctor tells you to,
when i wore the shirt it was mainly to recruit people. were you ever embarrassed to wear it? you know that embarrassment is empathy. you were worried about how it would affect other people. it wasn t so much your embarrassment of wearing it, but i think what you were feeling was how that might affect others as you were changing. you may not even have recognized that. you know, i see a confederate flag hanging on your wall. a lot of people in charlottesville were marching with the confederate flags. it was pitched as this rally to save a confederate monument. do you think that s what it was about? i believe that that s part of it. but they were trying to erase any symbol of white identity in america, white history. both sides think they were right. both sides had points, valid points, they were trying to make. but somebody died because of those actions. right.
cold enough for you? yeah. pretty chilly out there. yeah, a little bit. gabe, what are you feeling right now? to be honest with you, a bit awkward. yeah. so do i. just because we both know that you were here this summer. gabe, what s it like being here now? what s the feeling of being back in charlottesville? just realizing the magnitude of what happened there. because that got like national attention. i wasn t even expecting that, to be honest with you. how did you feel when you heard that somebody had been killed? i really didn t know how to feel. no offense to you, at the time honestly i really didn t care. i understand. it was someone from the other side. i think that s part of the problem, there s this image of
gabe, who was really heavily involved in the movement. and he was actually at the rally here in charlottesville. this is a kid who wants to do good but doesn t know how because he was never set up with the tools to do that. i would really love it if you guys met. would you be open to that? i think so. if he s willing to meet me, i would like to talk to him. maybe gain some insight. i really appreciate that. and i think what s possible is that we work hard to make sure no other mothers lose their sons that s my goal. i don t want anyone else to have to be in this club. there shouldn t have to be mothers who lose their children because of hate. susan s willingness to meet with gabe is both generous and brave.