such a small motive in flashing around material that would be valuable to an adversary, that would be dangerous to get into the wrong hands, that would cause grave danger to americans security. this is the trade-off that they are being presented within this future trial that the three of us are envisioning. well, presumably, these are not the only tapes that jack smith has. there s so much more to talk about but we have to leave it there. tali farhadian weinstein and carol leonnig, it s a great to hear from you both. thanks for joining me tonight. so, that was new bombshell reporting on special counsel jack smith s mar-a-lago investigation. and when we come back, we will begin to the fresh reporting on the special counsel s other big investigation into trump s role in january 6th. that is just ahead. stick around. k around (fisher investments) in this market, you ll find fisher investments is different than other money managers. (other money manager) different how? aren t we all just
in the summer of 2021 really seems to have gotten under trump skin, so much so that trump s reaction to all of these articles may just be the smoking gun in the special counsel s mar-a-lago investigation. as we have reported here before, multiple news outlets, including nbc, are now confirming that the special counsel s investigation has obtained an audio recording of donald trump from that summer, july 2021. in that recording, trump is angry. he is angry about that article about mark milley. and he is reportedly doing everything he can in this recording to prove that he never wanted to attack iran. instead, trump claims the person who really wanted to attack iran was wait for it general mark milley. and as evidence of that trump has, on the tape he says he has, in his position, some sort of classified
misdescribing because my understanding isbe general mill did not recommend attacking iran. yeah, layers of irony here. and i guess the question from a prosecutorialm level is how meaningful there s the legal part of this and then the public opinion part of this. talk to me legally about the importance of having these statements on tape. yes, so this is blockbuster evidence, alex, legally speaking. and it s not direct evidence of the crimes we ve been anticipating that he will beim charged with, which is having the classified documents at mar-a-lago. this obviously happened in a different setting, in a different time. but it s what we call other acts evidence that comes in to support thoseco charges and tel us three things. it tells us his intent, that he knew how classification works and that he was holding onto it, histh motives. that s hung over the documents case like why did he have this
know he had any of these government documents. trump s d lawyers wrote in a letter to congress white house employees quickly packed everything into boxes and shipped them to florida. they claimed trump had no idea what was in those boxes. second, trump s lawyers claimed trump kept all these in a safe place. they said all these classified materials were being kept at trump s heavily secured home at mar-a-lago. and finally trump claimed none of this mattered anyway because trump declassified everything before leaving office. you had said on truth social a number of times you did declassify. i did declassify. okay. is there a process? there doesn t have to be a process as i understand it. different people sayan differen things, but if you re the president of the united states you canid declassify just by saying it ssi declassified, eve by thinking about it. he said he didn t know the
hands, that would cause grave danger to americans security. this is the tradeoff they re being presented with in this trial that thewi three of us ar envisioning. well, presumably these are not the only tapes that jack smith has. there s so much more to talk about, we have to leave it there. so great to hear from you both. thanks for joining me tonight. so that was new bombshell reporting on special counsel jack smith s mar-a-lago investigation, and when we come back we ll dig into the fresh reporting on thent social counsel s other big investigation into trump s role in january 6th. that s just ahead. stick around.th