dana: from enterprise reporting thank you senator graham for being life on the daily briefing. let s bring martha maccallum listening to that. martha, i was thinking lindsey graham, so reasonable and commonsensical. and maybe they will make a difference this time, but it is like the words are not penetrating. to the public. martha: it s always been about semantics when you think about it the discussion of the wall and the president talking about steel slats and then nancy pelosi said the wall was a manhood issue for the president. but lindsey graham is exactly right. when you boil it down both sides of the fence, essentially they agree to the same thing. you need to have a border as he said nine months pregnant women can t fight over. that is dangerous. you want to provide safe port of entry along the way and walls in between that work. i thought it was interesting lindsey graham said and was saying about physically going back to this notion of comprehensive immigration reform wh
through and through. reporter: before even being officially elected today, pe he s pelosi throwing a punch that a sitting president can be indicted. everything indicates a president can be indicted after he s no longer president of the united states. what about a sitting president? when he s no longer president of the united states. a president who is in office? could robert mueller say i m seeking an indictment. i think that s an open discussion. i think that s an open discussion in terms of the law. reporter: that wasn t her only jab. also not denying the wall is manhood issue for trump. i wish my members had not repeated that outside the room but there s no justification for this wall. it is not the way to protect our border. reporter:expectations for a quick fix remain low after talks
open to technology, to other ways of doing it. are democrats really happy with people climbing across the wall and getting in? 60,000 people last month. it s ridiculous. to me, the key point is that he is acknowledging that democrats have voted and supported border security. it is not the case that democrats don t care about border security. martha: why won t they make a deal at this? we had border security and better ways to do it. the president and nancy pelosi said he has made this a manhood issue. martha: made it a personal issue! they made it perfectly clear, this is not about border security, it is about donald trump. this is about it being president trump s key campaign policy. democrats won t treat anything, they want to deny it president trump that victory, they don t want to give him that heading into 2020 paired on immigration, there was a key victory for president trump
howie: then democrats leaked to reporters that privately nancy pelosi told her fellow democrats this is a manhood issue for trump. that s a trumpian tactic. leaving aside this moment that will probably fade into history. the president is history because he broadcasted to his base that he cares about illegal immigration. and he ll fight for this wall and he s willing to shut down. from his point of view it might have been a win. adrienne: from his point of view it is a win, because if you are trump you are trying to play to your base. but the problem is, this is not expanding his base. what hurt in the mid terms and what will hurt him in 2020 unless he finds a way to bring in independents and swing voters.
howie: then democrats leaked to reporters that privately nancy pelosi told her fellow democrats this is a manhood issue for trump. that s a trumpian tactic. leaving aside this moment that will probably fade into history. the president is history because he broadcasted to his base that he cares about illegal immigration. and he ll fight for this wall and he s willing to shut down. from his point of view it might have been a win. adrienne: from his point of view it is a win, because if you are trump you are trying to play to your base. but the problem is, this is not expanding his base. what hurt in the mid terms and what will hurt him in 2020 unless he finds a way to bring in independents and swing